diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index dad38d5..2e22370 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -5,13 +5,6 @@ All notable changes to wuttaweb will be documented in this file.
 The format is based on [Keep a Changelog](http://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/)
 and this project adheres to [Semantic Versioning](http://semver.org/spec/v2.0.0.html).
 
-## v0.9.0 (2024-08-16)
-
-### Feat
-
-- add backend pagination support for grids
-- add initial/basic pagination for grids
-
 ## v0.8.1 (2024-08-15)
 
 ### Fix
diff --git a/pyproject.toml b/pyproject.toml
index 9e092c6..e07c98b 100644
--- a/pyproject.toml
+++ b/pyproject.toml
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ build-backend = "hatchling.build"
 
 [project]
 name = "WuttaWeb"
-version = "0.9.0"
+version = "0.8.1"
 description = "Web App for Wutta Framework"
 readme = "README.md"
 authors = [{name = "Lance Edgar", email = "lance@edbob.org"}]
@@ -31,7 +31,6 @@ classifiers = [
 requires-python = ">= 3.8"
 dependencies = [
         "ColanderAlchemy",
-        "paginate",
         "pyramid>=2",
         "pyramid_beaker",
         "pyramid_deform",
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py b/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py
index 328637d..740607c 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py
@@ -30,11 +30,9 @@ import logging
 
 import sqlalchemy as sa
 
-import paginate
 from pyramid.renderers import render
 from webhelpers2.html import HTML
 
-from wuttaweb.db import Session
 from wuttaweb.util import FieldList, get_model_fields, make_json_safe
 
 
@@ -63,11 +61,6 @@ class Grid:
        Presumably unique key for the grid; used to track per-grid
        sort/filter settings etc.
 
-    .. attribute:: vue_tagname
-
-       String name for Vue component tag.  By default this is
-       ``'wutta-grid'``.  See also :meth:`render_vue_tag()`.
-
     .. attribute:: model_class
 
        Model class for the grid, if applicable.  When set, this is
@@ -89,9 +82,6 @@ class Grid:
        model records) or else an object capable of producing such a
        list, e.g. SQLAlchemy query.
 
-       This is the "full" data set; see also
-       :meth:`get_visible_data()`.
-
     .. attribute:: labels
 
        Dict of column label overrides.
@@ -116,57 +106,15 @@ class Grid:
 
        See also :meth:`set_link()` and :meth:`is_linked()`.
 
-    .. attribute:: paginated
+    .. attribute:: vue_tagname
 
-       Boolean indicating whether the grid data should be paginated
-       vs. all data shown at once.  Default is ``False`` which means
-       the full set of grid data is sent for each request.
-
-       See also :attr:`pagesize` and :attr:`page`, and
-       :attr:`paginate_on_backend`.
-
-    .. attribute:: paginate_on_backend
-
-       Boolean indicating whether the grid data should be paginated on
-       the backend.  Default is ``True`` which means only one "page"
-       of data is sent to the client-side component.
-
-       If this is ``False``, the full set of grid data is sent for
-       each request, and the client-side Vue component will handle the
-       pagination.
-
-       Only relevant if :attr:`paginated` is also true.
-
-    .. attribute:: pagesize_options
-
-       List of "page size" options for the grid.  See also
-       :attr:`pagesize`.
-
-       Only relevant if :attr:`paginated` is true.  If not specified,
-       constructor will call :meth:`get_pagesize_options()` to get the
-       value.
-
-    .. attribute:: pagesize
-
-       Number of records to show in a data page.  See also
-       :attr:`pagesize_options` and :attr:`page`.
-
-       Only relevant if :attr:`paginated` is true.  If not specified,
-       constructor will call :meth:`get_pagesize()` to get the value.
-
-    .. attribute:: page
-
-       The current page number (of data) to display in the grid.  See
-       also :attr:`pagesize`.
-
-       Only relevant if :attr:`paginated` is true.  If not specified,
-       constructor will assume ``1`` (first page).
+       String name for Vue component tag.  By default this is
+       ``'wutta-grid'``.  See also :meth:`render_vue_tag()`.
     """
 
     def __init__(
             self,
             request,
-            vue_tagname='wutta-grid',
             model_class=None,
             key=None,
             columns=None,
@@ -175,14 +123,9 @@ class Grid:
             renderers={},
             actions=[],
             linked_columns=[],
-            paginated=False,
-            paginate_on_backend=True,
-            pagesize_options=None,
-            pagesize=None,
-            page=1,
+            vue_tagname='wutta-grid',
     ):
         self.request = request
-        self.vue_tagname = vue_tagname
         self.model_class = model_class
         self.key = key
         self.data = data
@@ -190,18 +133,13 @@ class Grid:
         self.renderers = renderers or {}
         self.actions = actions or []
         self.linked_columns = linked_columns or []
+        self.vue_tagname = vue_tagname
 
         self.config = self.request.wutta_config
         self.app = self.config.get_app()
 
         self.set_columns(columns or self.get_columns())
 
-        self.paginated = paginated
-        self.paginate_on_backend = paginate_on_backend
-        self.pagesize_options = pagesize_options or self.get_pagesize_options()
-        self.pagesize = pagesize or self.get_pagesize()
-        self.page = page
-
     def get_columns(self):
         """
         Returns the official list of column names for the grid, or
@@ -402,207 +340,6 @@ class Grid:
                 return True
         return False
 
-    ##############################
-    # paging methods
-    ##############################
-
-    def get_pagesize_options(self, default=None):
-        """
-        Returns a list of default page size options for the grid.
-
-        It will check config but if no setting exists, will fall
-        back to::
-
-           [5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200]
-
-        :param default: Alternate default value to return if none is
-           configured.
-
-        This method is intended for use in the constructor.  Code can
-        instead access :attr:`pagesize_options` directly.
-        """
-        options = self.config.get_list('wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize_options')
-        if options:
-            options = [int(size) for size in options
-                       if size.isdigit()]
-            if options:
-                return options
-
-        return default or [5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200]
-
-    def get_pagesize(self, default=None):
-        """
-        Returns the default page size for the grid.
-
-        It will check config but if no setting exists, will fall back
-        to a value from :attr:`pagesize_options` (will return ``20`` if
-        that is listed; otherwise the "first" option).
-
-        :param default: Alternate default value to return if none is
-           configured.
-
-        This method is intended for use in the constructor.  Code can
-        instead access :attr:`pagesize` directly.
-        """
-        size = self.config.get_int('wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize')
-        if size:
-            return size
-
-        if default:
-            return default
-
-        if 20 in self.pagesize_options:
-            return 20
-
-        return self.pagesize_options[0]
-
-    ##############################
-    # configuration methods
-    ##############################
-
-    def load_settings(self, store=True):
-        """
-        Load all effective settings for the grid, from the following
-        places:
-
-        * request params
-        * user session
-
-        The first value found for a given setting will be applied to
-        the grid.
-
-        .. note::
-
-           As of now, "pagination" settings are the only type
-           supported by this logic.  Filter/sort coming soon...
-
-        The overall logic for this method is as follows:
-
-        * collect settings
-        * apply settings to current grid
-        * optionally save settings to user session
-
-        Saving the settings to user session will allow the grid to
-        "remember" its current settings when user refreshes the page.
-
-        :param store: Flag indicating whether the collected settings
-           should then be saved to the user session.
-        """
-
-        # initial default settings
-        settings = {}
-        if self.paginated and self.paginate_on_backend:
-            settings['pagesize'] = self.pagesize
-            settings['page'] = self.page
-
-        # grab settings from request and/or user session
-        if self.paginated and self.paginate_on_backend:
-            self.update_page_settings(settings)
-
-        else:
-            # no settings were found in request or user session, so
-            # nothing needs to be saved
-            store = False
-
-        # maybe store settings in user session, for next time
-        if store:
-            self.persist_settings(settings)
-
-        # update ourself to reflect settings
-        if self.paginated and self.paginate_on_backend:
-            self.pagesize = settings['pagesize']
-            self.page = settings['page']
-
-    def request_has_settings(self):
-        """ """
-        for key in ['pagesize', 'page']:
-            if key in self.request.GET:
-                return True
-        return False
-
-    def update_page_settings(self, settings):
-        """ """
-        # update the settings dict from request and/or user session
-
-        # pagesize
-        pagesize = self.request.GET.get('pagesize')
-        if pagesize is not None:
-            if pagesize.isdigit():
-                settings['pagesize'] = int(pagesize)
-        else:
-            pagesize = self.request.session.get(f'grid.{self.key}.pagesize')
-            if pagesize is not None:
-                settings['pagesize'] = pagesize
-
-        # page
-        page = self.request.GET.get('page')
-        if page is not None:
-            if page.isdigit():
-                settings['page'] = int(page)
-        else:
-            page = self.request.session.get(f'grid.{self.key}.page')
-            if page is not None:
-                settings['page'] = int(page)
-
-    def persist_settings(self, settings):
-        """ """
-        model = self.app.model
-        session = Session()
-
-        # func to save a setting value to user session
-        def persist(key, value=lambda k: settings.get(k)):
-            skey = f'grid.{self.key}.{key}'
-            self.request.session[skey] = value(key)
-
-        if self.paginated and self.paginate_on_backend:
-            persist('pagesize')
-            persist('page')
-
-    ##############################
-    # data methods
-    ##############################
-
-    def get_visible_data(self):
-        """
-        Returns the "effective" visible data for the grid.
-
-        This uses :attr:`data` as the starting point but may morph it
-        for pagination etc. per the grid settings.
-
-        Code can either access :attr:`data` directly, or call this
-        method to get only the data for current view (e.g. assuming
-        pagination is used), depending on the need.
-
-        See also these methods which may be called by this one:
-
-        * :meth:`paginate_data()`
-        """
-        data = self.data or []
-
-        if self.paginated and self.paginate_on_backend:
-            self.pager = self.paginate_data(data)
-            data = self.pager
-
-        return data
-
-    def paginate_data(self, data):
-        """
-        Apply pagination to the given data set, based on grid settings.
-
-        This returns a "pager" object which can then be used as a
-        "data replacement" in subsequent logic.
-
-        This method is called by :meth:`get_visible_data()`.
-        """
-        pager = paginate.Page(data,
-                              items_per_page=self.pagesize,
-                              page=self.page)
-        return pager
-
-    ##############################
-    # rendering methods
-    ##############################
-
     def render_vue_tag(self, **kwargs):
         """
         Render the Vue component tag for the grid.
@@ -681,18 +418,17 @@ class Grid:
         """
         Returns a list of Vue-compatible data records.
 
-        This calls :meth:`get_visible_data()` but then may modify the
-        result, e.g. to add URLs for :attr:`actions` etc.
+        This uses :attr:`data` as the basis, but may add some extra
+        values to each record, e.g. URLs for :attr:`actions` etc.
 
         Importantly, this also ensures each value in the dict is
         JSON-serializable, using
         :func:`~wuttaweb.util.make_json_safe()`.
 
         :returns: List of data record dicts for use with Vue table
-           component.  May be the full set of data, or just the
-           current page, per :attr:`paginate_on_backend`.
+           component.
         """
-        original_data = self.get_visible_data()
+        original_data = self.data or []
 
         # TODO: at some point i thought it was useful to wrangle the
         # columns here, but now i can't seem to figure out why..?
@@ -743,22 +479,6 @@ class Grid:
 
         return data
 
-    def get_vue_pager_stats(self):
-        """
-        Returns a simple dict with current grid pager stats.
-
-        This is used when :attr:`paginate_on_backend` is in effect.
-        """
-        pager = self.pager
-        return {
-            'item_count': pager.item_count,
-            'items_per_page': pager.items_per_page,
-            'page': pager.page,
-            'page_count': pager.page_count,
-            'first_item': pager.first_item,
-            'last_item': pager.last_item,
-        }
-
 
 class GridAction:
     """
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako
index e588450..5e60bab 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako
@@ -2,25 +2,8 @@
 
 <script type="text/x-template" id="${grid.vue_tagname}-template">
   <${b}-table :data="data"
-              :loading="loading"
-
-              narrowed
               hoverable
-              icon-pack="fas"
-
-              ## paging
-              % if grid.paginated:
-                  paginated
-                  pagination-size="is-small"
-                  :per-page="perPage"
-                  :current-page="currentPage"
-                  @page-change="onPageChange"
-                  % if grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                      backend-pagination
-                      :total="pagerStats.item_count"
-                  % endif
-              % endif
-              >
+              :loading="loading">
 
     % for column in grid.get_vue_columns():
         <${b}-table-column field="${column['field']}"
@@ -51,165 +34,21 @@
         </${b}-table-column>
     % endif
 
-    % if grid.paginated:
-        <template #footer>
-          <div style="display: flex; justify-content: space-between;">
-            <div></div>
-            <div style="display: flex; gap: 0.5rem; align-items: center;">
-              <span>
-                showing
-                {{ renderNumber(pagerStats.first_item) }}
-                - {{ renderNumber(pagerStats.last_item) }}
-                of {{ renderNumber(pagerStats.item_count) }} results;
-              </span>
-              <b-select v-model="perPage"
-                        % if grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                            @input="onPageSizeChange"
-                        % endif
-                        size="is-small">
-                <option v-for="size in pageSizeOptions"
-                        :value="size">
-                  {{ size }}
-                </option>
-              </b-select>
-              <span>
-                per page
-              </span>
-            </div>
-          </div>
-        </template>
-      % endif
-
   </${b}-table>
 </script>
 
 <script>
 
-  let ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData = ${json.dumps(grid.get_vue_data())|n}
-
-  const ${grid.vue_component}Data = {
-      data: ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData,
-      loading: false,
-
-      ## paging
-      % if grid.paginated:
-          pageSizeOptions: ${json.dumps(grid.pagesize_options)|n},
-          perPage: ${json.dumps(grid.pagesize)|n},
-          currentPage: ${json.dumps(grid.page)|n},
-          % if grid.paginate_on_backend:
-              pagerStats: ${json.dumps(grid.get_vue_pager_stats())|n},
-          % endif
-      % endif
+  let ${grid.vue_component} = {
+      template: '#${grid.vue_tagname}-template',
+      methods: {},
   }
 
-  const ${grid.vue_component} = {
-      template: '#${grid.vue_tagname}-template',
-      computed: {
+  let ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData = ${json.dumps(grid.get_vue_data())|n}
 
-          % if not grid.paginate_on_backend:
-
-              pagerStats() {
-                  let last = this.currentPage * this.perPage
-                  let first = last - this.perPage + 1
-                  if (last > this.data.length) {
-                      last = this.data.length
-                  }
-                  return {
-                      'item_count': this.data.length,
-                      'items_per_page': this.perPage,
-                      'page': this.currentPage,
-                      'first_item': first,
-                      'last_item': last,
-                  }
-              },
-
-          % endif
-      },
-      methods: {
-
-          renderNumber(value) {
-              if (value != undefined) {
-                  return value.toLocaleString('en')
-              }
-          },
-
-          getBasicParams() {
-              return {
-                  % if grid.paginated and grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                      pagesize: this.perPage,
-                      page: this.currentPage,
-                  % endif
-              }
-          },
-
-          async fetchData(params, success, failure) {
-
-              if (params === undefined || params === null) {
-                  params = new URLSearchParams(this.getBasicParams())
-              } else {
-                  params = new URLSearchParams(params)
-              }
-              if (!params.has('partial')) {
-                  params.append('partial', true)
-              }
-              params = params.toString()
-
-              this.loading = true
-              this.$http.get(`${request.path_url}?${'$'}{params}`).then(response => {
-                  console.log(response)
-                  console.log(response.data)
-                  if (!response.data.error) {
-                      ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData = response.data.data
-                      this.data = ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData
-                      % if grid.paginated and grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                          this.pagerStats = response.data.pager_stats
-                      % endif
-                      this.loading = false
-                      if (success) {
-                          success()
-                      }
-                  } else {
-                      this.$buefy.toast.open({
-                          message: data.error,
-                          type: 'is-danger',
-                          duration: 2000, // 4 seconds
-                      })
-                      this.loading = false
-                      if (failure) {
-                          failure()
-                      }
-                  }
-              })
-              .catch((error) => {
-                  this.data = []
-                  % if grid.paginated and grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                      this.pagerStats = {}
-                  % endif
-                  this.loading = false
-                  if (failure) {
-                      failure()
-                  }
-                  throw error
-              })
-          },
-
-          % if grid.paginated:
-
-              % if grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                  onPageSizeChange(size) {
-                      this.fetchData()
-                  },
-              % endif
-
-              onPageChange(page) {
-                  this.currentPage = page
-                  % if grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                      this.fetchData()
-                  % endif
-              },
-
-          % endif
-      },
+  let ${grid.vue_component}Data = {
+      data: ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData,
+      loading: false,
   }
 
 </script>
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py
index bc1e76c..ccdc749 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py
@@ -25,7 +25,6 @@ Base Logic for Views
 """
 
 from pyramid import httpexceptions
-from pyramid.renderers import render_to_response
 
 from wuttaweb import forms, grids
 
@@ -118,13 +117,3 @@ class View:
         correctly no matter what.
         """
         return httpexceptions.HTTPFound(location=url, **kwargs)
-
-    def json_response(self, context):
-        """
-        Convenience method to return a JSON response.
-
-        :param context: Context data to be rendered as JSON.
-
-        :returns: A :term:`response` with JSON content type.
-        """
-        return render_to_response('json', context, request=self.request)
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
index 8a72cc9..1c7518d 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
@@ -181,23 +181,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
 
        This is optional; see also :meth:`get_grid_columns()`.
 
-    .. attribute:: paginated
-
-       Boolean indicating whether the grid data for the
-       :meth:`index()` view should be paginated.  Default is ``True``.
-
-       This is used by :meth:`make_model_grid()` to set the grid's
-       :attr:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid.paginated` flag.
-
-    .. attribute:: paginate_on_backend
-
-       Boolean indicating whether the grid data for the
-       :meth:`index()` view should be paginated on the backend.
-       Default is ``True``.
-
-       This is used by :meth:`make_model_grid()` to set the grid's
-       :attr:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid.paginate_on_backend` flag.
-
     .. attribute:: creatable
 
        Boolean indicating whether the view model supports "creating" -
@@ -246,8 +229,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
     # features
     listable = True
     has_grid = True
-    paginated = True
-    paginate_on_backend = True
     creatable = True
     viewable = True
     editable = True
@@ -294,16 +275,7 @@ class MasterView(View):
         }
 
         if self.has_grid:
-            grid = self.make_model_grid()
-
-            # so-called 'partial' requests get just data, no html
-            if self.request.GET.get('partial'):
-                context = {'data': grid.get_vue_data()}
-                if grid.paginated and grid.paginate_on_backend:
-                    context['pager_stats'] = grid.get_vue_pager_stats()
-                return self.json_response(context)
-
-            context['grid'] = grid
+            context['grid'] = self.make_model_grid()
 
         return self.render_to_response('index', context)
 
@@ -1089,12 +1061,8 @@ class MasterView(View):
 
             kwargs['actions'] = actions
 
-        kwargs.setdefault('paginated', self.paginated)
-        kwargs.setdefault('paginate_on_backend', self.paginate_on_backend)
-
         grid = self.make_grid(**kwargs)
         self.configure_grid(grid)
-        grid.load_settings()
         return grid
 
     def get_grid_columns(self):
diff --git a/tests/grids/test_base.py b/tests/grids/test_base.py
index 160b1a4..2d15689 100644
--- a/tests/grids/test_base.py
+++ b/tests/grids/test_base.py
@@ -3,16 +3,29 @@
 from unittest import TestCase
 from unittest.mock import patch
 
-from paginate import Page
 from pyramid import testing
 
 from wuttjamaican.conf import WuttaConfig
 from wuttaweb.grids import base
 from wuttaweb.forms import FieldList
-from tests.util import WebTestCase
 
 
-class TestGrid(WebTestCase):
+class TestGrid(TestCase):
+
+    def setUp(self):
+        self.config = WuttaConfig(defaults={
+            'wutta.web.menus.handler_spec': 'tests.util:NullMenuHandler',
+        })
+        self.app = self.config.get_app()
+
+        self.request = testing.DummyRequest(wutta_config=self.config, use_oruga=False)
+
+        self.pyramid_config = testing.setUp(request=self.request, settings={
+            'mako.directories': ['wuttaweb:templates'],
+        })
+
+    def tearDown(self):
+        testing.tearDown()
 
     def make_grid(self, request=None, **kwargs):
         return base.Grid(request or self.request, **kwargs)
@@ -131,143 +144,6 @@ class TestGrid(WebTestCase):
         self.assertFalse(grid.is_linked('foo'))
         self.assertTrue(grid.is_linked('bar'))
 
-    def test_get_pagesize_options(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-
-        # default
-        options = grid.get_pagesize_options()
-        self.assertEqual(options, [5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200])
-
-        # override default
-        options = grid.get_pagesize_options(default=[42])
-        self.assertEqual(options, [42])
-
-        # from config
-        self.config.setdefault('wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize_options', '1 2 3')
-        options = grid.get_pagesize_options()
-        self.assertEqual(options, [1, 2, 3])
-
-    def test_get_pagesize(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-
-        # default
-        size = grid.get_pagesize()
-        self.assertEqual(size, 20)
-
-        # override default
-        size = grid.get_pagesize(default=42)
-        self.assertEqual(size, 42)
-
-        # override default options
-        self.config.setdefault('wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize_options', '10 15 30')
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        size = grid.get_pagesize()
-        self.assertEqual(size, 10)
-
-        # from config
-        self.config.setdefault('wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize', '15')
-        size = grid.get_pagesize()
-        self.assertEqual(size, 15)
-
-    ##############################
-    # configuration methods
-    ##############################
-
-    def test_load_settings(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid(key='foo', paginated=True, paginate_on_backend=True,
-                              pagesize=20, page=1)
-
-        # settings are loaded, applied, saved
-        self.assertEqual(grid.page, 1)
-        self.assertNotIn('grid.foo.page', self.request.session)
-        self.request.GET = {'pagesize': '10', 'page': '2'}
-        grid.load_settings()
-        self.assertEqual(grid.page, 2)
-        self.assertEqual(self.request.session['grid.foo.page'], 2)
-
-        # can skip the saving step
-        self.request.GET = {'pagesize': '10', 'page': '3'}
-        grid.load_settings(store=False)
-        self.assertEqual(grid.page, 3)
-        self.assertEqual(self.request.session['grid.foo.page'], 2)
-
-        # no error for non-paginated grid
-        grid = self.make_grid(key='foo', paginated=False)
-        grid.load_settings()
-        self.assertFalse(grid.paginated)
-
-    def test_request_has_settings(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid(key='foo')
-
-        self.assertFalse(grid.request_has_settings())
-
-        with patch.object(self.request, 'GET', new={'pagesize': '20'}):
-            self.assertTrue(grid.request_has_settings())
-
-        with patch.object(self.request, 'GET', new={'page': '1'}):
-            self.assertTrue(grid.request_has_settings())
-
-    def test_update_page_settings(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid(key='foo')
-
-        # settings are updated from session
-        settings = {'pagesize': 20, 'page': 1}
-        self.request.session['grid.foo.pagesize'] = 10
-        self.request.session['grid.foo.page'] = 2
-        grid.update_page_settings(settings)
-        self.assertEqual(settings['pagesize'], 10)
-        self.assertEqual(settings['page'], 2)
-
-        # settings are updated from request
-        self.request.GET = {'pagesize': '15', 'page': '4'}
-        grid.update_page_settings(settings)
-        self.assertEqual(settings['pagesize'], 15)
-        self.assertEqual(settings['page'], 4)
-
-    def test_persist_settings(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid(key='foo', paginated=True, paginate_on_backend=True)
-
-        # nb. no error if empty settings, but it saves null values
-        grid.persist_settings({})
-        self.assertIsNone(self.request.session['grid.foo.page'])
-
-        # provided values are saved
-        grid.persist_settings({'pagesize': 15, 'page': 3})
-        self.assertEqual(self.request.session['grid.foo.page'], 3)
-
-    ##############################
-    # data methods
-    ##############################
-
-    def test_get_visible_data(self):
-        data = [
-            {'foo': 1, 'bar': 1},
-            {'foo': 2, 'bar': 2},
-            {'foo': 3, 'bar': 3},
-            {'foo': 4, 'bar': 4},
-            {'foo': 5, 'bar': 5},
-            {'foo': 6, 'bar': 6},
-            {'foo': 7, 'bar': 7},
-            {'foo': 8, 'bar': 8},
-            {'foo': 9, 'bar': 9},
-        ]
-        grid = self.make_grid(data=data,
-                              columns=['foo', 'bar'],
-                              paginated=True, paginate_on_backend=True,
-                              pagesize=4, page=2)
-        visible = grid.get_visible_data()
-        self.assertEqual(len(visible), 4)
-        self.assertEqual(visible[0], {'foo': 5, 'bar': 5})
-
-    def test_paginate_data(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        pager = grid.paginate_data([])
-        self.assertIsInstance(pager, Page)
-
-    ##############################
-    # rendering methods
-    ##############################
-
     def test_render_vue_tag(self):
         grid = self.make_grid(columns=['foo', 'bar'])
         html = grid.render_vue_tag()
@@ -321,28 +197,6 @@ class TestGrid(WebTestCase):
         data = grid.get_vue_data()
         self.assertEqual(data, [{'foo': 'blah blah', '_action_url_view': '/blarg'}])
 
-    def test_get_vue_pager_stats(self):
-        data = [
-            {'foo': 1, 'bar': 1},
-            {'foo': 2, 'bar': 2},
-            {'foo': 3, 'bar': 3},
-            {'foo': 4, 'bar': 4},
-            {'foo': 5, 'bar': 5},
-            {'foo': 6, 'bar': 6},
-            {'foo': 7, 'bar': 7},
-            {'foo': 8, 'bar': 8},
-            {'foo': 9, 'bar': 9},
-        ]
-
-        grid = self.make_grid(columns=['foo', 'bar'], pagesize=4, page=2)
-        grid.pager = grid.paginate_data(data)
-        stats = grid.get_vue_pager_stats()
-        self.assertEqual(stats['item_count'], 9)
-        self.assertEqual(stats['items_per_page'], 4)
-        self.assertEqual(stats['page'], 2)
-        self.assertEqual(stats['first_item'], 5)
-        self.assertEqual(stats['last_item'], 8)
-
 
 class TestGridAction(TestCase):
 
diff --git a/tests/views/test_base.py b/tests/views/test_base.py
index f86fc8f..67f3f93 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_base.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_base.py
@@ -1,56 +1,46 @@
 # -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
 
+from unittest import TestCase
+
+from pyramid import testing
 from pyramid.httpexceptions import HTTPFound, HTTPForbidden, HTTPNotFound
 
-from wuttaweb.views import base as mod
+from wuttjamaican.conf import WuttaConfig
+from wuttaweb.views import base
 from wuttaweb.forms import Form
-from wuttaweb.grids import Grid, GridAction
-from tests.util import WebTestCase
+from wuttaweb.grids import Grid
 
 
-class TestView(WebTestCase):
+class TestView(TestCase):
 
-    def make_view(self):
-        return mod.View(self.request)
+    def setUp(self):
+        self.config = WuttaConfig()
+        self.app = self.config.get_app()
+        self.request = testing.DummyRequest(wutta_config=self.config)
+        self.view = base.View(self.request)
 
     def test_basic(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        self.assertIs(view.request, self.request)
-        self.assertIs(view.config, self.config)
-        self.assertIs(view.app, self.app)
+        self.assertIs(self.view.request, self.request)
+        self.assertIs(self.view.config, self.config)
+        self.assertIs(self.view.app, self.app)
 
     def test_forbidden(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        error = view.forbidden()
+        error = self.view.forbidden()
         self.assertIsInstance(error, HTTPForbidden)
 
     def test_make_form(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        form = view.make_form()
+        form = self.view.make_form()
         self.assertIsInstance(form, Form)
 
     def test_make_grid(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        grid = view.make_grid()
+        grid = self.view.make_grid()
         self.assertIsInstance(grid, Grid)
 
-    def test_make_grid_action(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        action = view.make_grid_action('view')
-        self.assertIsInstance(action, GridAction)
-
     def test_notfound(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        error = view.notfound()
+        error = self.view.notfound()
         self.assertIsInstance(error, HTTPNotFound)
 
     def test_redirect(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        error = view.redirect('/')
+        error = self.view.redirect('/')
         self.assertIsInstance(error, HTTPFound)
         self.assertEqual(error.location, '/')
-
-    def test_json_response(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        response = view.json_response({'foo': 'bar'})
-        self.assertEqual(response.status_code, 200)
diff --git a/tests/views/test_master.py b/tests/views/test_master.py
index 719ddb8..8647b2a 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_master.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_master.py
@@ -747,14 +747,6 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
             data = [{'name': 'foo', 'value': 'bar'}]
             with patch.object(view, 'get_grid_data', return_value=data):
                 response = view.index()
-                self.assertEqual(response.status_code, 200)
-                self.assertEqual(response.content_type, 'text/html')
-
-                # then once more as 'partial' - aka. data only
-                self.request.GET = {'partial': '1'}
-                response = view.index()
-                self.assertEqual(response.status_code, 200)
-                self.assertEqual(response.content_type, 'application/json')
 
     def test_create(self):
         self.pyramid_config.include('wuttaweb.views.common')