diff --git a/docs/api/wuttaweb/grids.base.rst b/docs/api/wuttaweb/grids.base.rst
deleted file mode 100644
index 8b3cc38..0000000
--- a/docs/api/wuttaweb/grids.base.rst
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,6 +0,0 @@
-
-``wuttaweb.grids.base``
-=======================
-
-.. automodule:: wuttaweb.grids.base
-   :members:
diff --git a/docs/api/wuttaweb/grids.rst b/docs/api/wuttaweb/grids.rst
deleted file mode 100644
index 7430a21..0000000
--- a/docs/api/wuttaweb/grids.rst
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,6 +0,0 @@
-
-``wuttaweb.grids``
-==================
-
-.. automodule:: wuttaweb.grids
-   :members:
diff --git a/docs/api/wuttaweb/index.rst b/docs/api/wuttaweb/index.rst
index 1b1a61f..5afd18b 100644
--- a/docs/api/wuttaweb/index.rst
+++ b/docs/api/wuttaweb/index.rst
@@ -12,8 +12,6 @@
    db
    forms
    forms.base
-   grids
-   grids.base
    handler
    helpers
    menus
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/forms/__init__.py b/src/wuttaweb/forms/__init__.py
index 0f72808..35102be 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/forms/__init__.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/forms/__init__.py
@@ -26,7 +26,6 @@ Forms Library
 The ``wuttaweb.forms`` namespace contains the following:
 
 * :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.Form`
-* :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.FieldList`
 """
 
-from .base import Form, FieldList
+from .base import Form
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/forms/base.py b/src/wuttaweb/forms/base.py
index 89664e3..42abb31 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/forms/base.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/forms/base.py
@@ -44,8 +44,7 @@ class FieldList(list):
     of :class:`python:list`.
 
     You normally would not need to instantiate this yourself, but it
-    is used under the hood for :attr:`Form.fields` as well as
-    :attr:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid.columns`.
+    is used under the hood for e.g. :attr:`Form.fields`.
     """
 
     def insert_before(self, field, newfield):
@@ -106,48 +105,15 @@ class Form:
 
     Form instances contain the following attributes:
 
-    .. attribute:: request
-
-       Reference to current :term:`request` object.
-
     .. attribute:: fields
 
        :class:`FieldList` instance containing string field names for
        the form.  By default, fields will appear in the same order as
        they are in this list.
 
-    .. attribute:: schema
+    .. attribute:: request
 
-       Colander-based schema object for the form.  This is optional;
-       if not specified an attempt will be made to construct one
-       automatically.
-
-       See also :meth:`get_schema()`.
-
-    .. attribute:: model_class
-
-       Optional "class" for the model.  If set, this usually would be
-       a SQLAlchemy mapped class.  This may be used instead of
-       specifying the :attr:`schema`.
-
-    .. attribute:: model_instance
-
-       Optional instance from which initial form data should be
-       obtained.  In simple cases this might be a dict, or maybe an
-       instance of :attr:`model_class`.
-
-       Note that this also may be used instead of specifying the
-       :attr:`schema`, if the instance belongs to a class which is
-       SQLAlchemy-mapped.  (In that case :attr:`model_class` can be
-       determined automatically.)
-
-    .. attribute:: readonly
-
-       Boolean indicating the form does not allow submit.  In practice
-       this means there will not even be a ``<form>`` tag involved.
-
-       Default for this is ``False`` in which case the ``<form>`` tag
-       will exist and submit is allowed.
+       Reference to current :term:`request` object.
 
     .. attribute:: action_url
 
@@ -194,9 +160,6 @@ class Form:
             request,
             fields=None,
             schema=None,
-            model_class=None,
-            model_instance=None,
-            readonly=False,
             labels={},
             action_url=None,
             vue_tagname='wutta-form',
@@ -208,7 +171,6 @@ class Form:
     ):
         self.request = request
         self.schema = schema
-        self.readonly = readonly
         self.labels = labels or {}
         self.action_url = action_url
         self.vue_tagname = vue_tagname
@@ -221,9 +183,6 @@ class Form:
         self.config = self.request.wutta_config
         self.app = self.config.get_app()
 
-        self.model_class = model_class
-        self.model_instance = model_instance
-
         if fields is not None:
             self.set_fields(fields)
         elif self.schema:
@@ -300,22 +259,9 @@ class Form:
         """
         Return the :class:`colander:colander.Schema` object for the
         form, generating it automatically if necessary.
-
-        Note that if :attr:`schema` is already set, that will be
-        returned as-is.
         """
         if not self.schema:
-
-            if self.fields:
-                schema = colander.Schema()
-                for name in self.fields:
-                    schema.add(colander.SchemaNode(
-                        colander.String(),
-                        name=name))
-                self.schema = schema
-
-            else: # no fields
-                raise NotImplementedError
+            raise NotImplementedError
 
         return self.schema
 
@@ -326,12 +272,7 @@ class Form:
         """
         if not hasattr(self, 'deform_form'):
             schema = self.get_schema()
-            kwargs = {}
-
-            if self.model_instance:
-                kwargs['appstruct'] = self.model_instance
-
-            form = deform.Form(schema, **kwargs)
+            form = deform.Form(schema)
             self.deform_form = form
 
         return self.deform_form
@@ -391,7 +332,7 @@ class Form:
         output = render(template, context)
         return HTML.literal(output)
 
-    def render_vue_field(self, fieldname, readonly=None):
+    def render_vue_field(self, fieldname):
         """
         Render the given field completely, i.e. ``<b-field>`` wrapper
         with label and containing a widget.
@@ -408,19 +349,11 @@ class Form:
               <!-- widget element(s) -->
            </b-field>
         """
-
-        if readonly is None:
-            readonly = self.readonly
-
-        # render the field widget or whatever
         dform = self.get_deform()
         field = dform[fieldname]
-        kw = {}
-        if readonly:
-            kw['readonly'] = True
-        html = field.serialize(**kw)
 
-        # mark all that as safe
+        # render the field widget or whatever
+        html = field.serialize()
         html = HTML.literal(html)
 
         # render field label
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/grids/__init__.py b/src/wuttaweb/grids/__init__.py
deleted file mode 100644
index a28f02c..0000000
--- a/src/wuttaweb/grids/__init__.py
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,31 +0,0 @@
-# -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
-################################################################################
-#
-#  wuttaweb -- Web App for Wutta Framework
-#  Copyright © 2024 Lance Edgar
-#
-#  This file is part of Wutta Framework.
-#
-#  Wutta Framework is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it
-#  under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
-#  Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any
-#  later version.
-#
-#  Wutta Framework is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
-#  WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or
-#  FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for
-#  more details.
-#
-#  You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with
-#  Wutta Framework.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
-#
-################################################################################
-"""
-Grids Library
-
-The ``wuttaweb.grids`` namespace contains the following:
-
-* :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid`
-"""
-
-from .base import Grid, GridAction
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py b/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py
deleted file mode 100644
index 17eaa3f..0000000
--- a/src/wuttaweb/grids/base.py
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,344 +0,0 @@
-# -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
-################################################################################
-#
-#  wuttaweb -- Web App for Wutta Framework
-#  Copyright © 2024 Lance Edgar
-#
-#  This file is part of Wutta Framework.
-#
-#  Wutta Framework is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it
-#  under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
-#  Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or (at your option) any
-#  later version.
-#
-#  Wutta Framework is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
-#  WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or
-#  FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU General Public License for
-#  more details.
-#
-#  You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with
-#  Wutta Framework.  If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
-#
-################################################################################
-"""
-Base grid classes
-"""
-
-from pyramid.renderers import render
-from webhelpers2.html import HTML
-
-from wuttaweb.forms import FieldList
-
-
-class Grid:
-    """
-    Base class for all grids.
-
-    :param request: Reference to current :term:`request` object.
-
-    :param columns: List of column names for the grid.  This is
-       optional; if not specified an attempt will be made to deduce
-       the list automatically.  See also :attr:`columns`.
-
-    .. note::
-
-       Some parameters are not explicitly described above.  However
-       their corresponding attributes are described below.
-
-    Grid instances contain the following attributes:
-
-    .. attribute:: key
-
-       Presumably unique key for the grid; used to track per-grid
-       sort/filter settings etc.
-
-    .. attribute:: columns
-
-       :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.FieldList` instance containing
-       string column names for the grid.  Columns will appear in the
-       same order as they are in this list.
-
-       See also :meth:`set_columns()`.
-
-    .. attribute:: data
-
-       Data set for the grid.  This should either be a list of dicts
-       (or objects with dict-like access to fields, corresponding to
-       model records) or else an object capable of producing such a
-       list, e.g. SQLAlchemy query.
-
-    .. attribute:: actions
-
-       List of :class:`GridAction` instances represenging action links
-       to be shown for each record in the grid.
-
-    .. attribute:: vue_tagname
-
-       String name for Vue component tag.  By default this is
-       ``'wutta-grid'``.  See also :meth:`render_vue_tag()`.
-    """
-
-    def __init__(
-            self,
-            request,
-            key=None,
-            columns=None,
-            data=None,
-            actions=[],
-            vue_tagname='wutta-grid',
-    ):
-        self.request = request
-        self.key = key
-        self.data = data
-        self.actions = actions or []
-        self.vue_tagname = vue_tagname
-
-        self.config = self.request.wutta_config
-        self.app = self.config.get_app()
-
-        if columns is not None:
-            self.set_columns(columns)
-        else:
-            self.columns = None
-
-    @property
-    def vue_component(self):
-        """
-        String name for the Vue component, e.g. ``'WuttaGrid'``.
-
-        This is a generated value based on :attr:`vue_tagname`.
-        """
-        words = self.vue_tagname.split('-')
-        return ''.join([word.capitalize() for word in words])
-
-    def set_columns(self, columns):
-        """
-        Explicitly set the list of grid columns.
-
-        This will overwrite :attr:`columns` with a new
-        :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.FieldList` instance.
-
-        :param columns: List of string column names.
-        """
-        self.columns = FieldList(columns)
-
-    def render_vue_tag(self, **kwargs):
-        """
-        Render the Vue component tag for the grid.
-
-        By default this simply returns:
-
-        .. code-block:: html
-
-           <wutta-grid></wutta-grid>
-
-        The actual output will depend on various grid attributes, in
-        particular :attr:`vue_tagname`.
-        """
-        return HTML.tag(self.vue_tagname, **kwargs)
-
-    def render_vue_template(
-            self,
-            template='/grids/vue_template.mako',
-            **context):
-        """
-        Render the Vue template block for the grid.
-
-        This returns something like:
-
-        .. code-block:: none
-
-           <script type="text/x-template" id="wutta-grid-template">
-             <b-table>
-               <!-- columns etc. -->
-             </b-table>
-           </script>
-
-        .. todo::
-
-           Why can't Sphinx render the above code block as 'html' ?
-
-           It acts like it can't handle a ``<script>`` tag at all?
-
-        Actual output will of course depend on grid attributes,
-        :attr:`vue_tagname` and :attr:`columns` etc.
-
-        :param template: Path to Mako template which is used to render
-           the output.
-        """
-        context['grid'] = self
-        context.setdefault('request', self.request)
-        output = render(template, context)
-        return HTML.literal(output)
-
-    def get_vue_columns(self):
-        """
-        Returns a list of Vue-compatible column definitions.
-
-        This uses :attr:`columns` as the basis; each definition
-        returned will be a dict in this format::
-
-           {
-               'field': 'foo',
-               'label': "Foo",
-           }
-
-        See also :meth:`get_vue_data()`.
-        """
-        if not self.columns:
-            raise ValueError(f"you must define columns for the grid! key = {self.key}")
-
-        columns = []
-        for name in self.columns:
-            columns.append({
-                'field': name,
-                'label': self.app.make_title(name),
-            })
-        return columns
-
-    def get_vue_data(self):
-        """
-        Returns a list of Vue-compatible data records.
-
-        This uses :attr:`data` as the basis, but may add some extra
-        values to each record for sake of action URLs etc.
-
-        See also :meth:`get_vue_columns()`.
-        """
-        # use data as-is unless we have actions
-        if not self.actions:
-            return self.data
-
-        # we have action(s), so add URL(s) for each record in data
-        data = []
-        for i, record in enumerate(self.data):
-            record = dict(record)
-            for action in self.actions:
-                url = action.get_url(record, i)
-                key = f'_action_url_{action.key}'
-                record[key] = url
-            data.append(record)
-
-        return data
-
-
-class GridAction:
-    """
-    Represents a "row action" hyperlink within a grid context.
-
-    All such actions are displayed as a group, in a dedicated
-    **Actions** column in the grid.  So each row in the grid has its
-    own set of action links.
-
-    A :class:`Grid` can have one (or zero) or more of these in its
-    :attr:`~Grid.actions` list.  You can call
-    :meth:`~wuttaweb.views.base.View.make_grid_action()` to add custom
-    actions from within a view.
-
-    :param request: Current :term:`request` object.
-
-    .. note::
-
-       Some parameters are not explicitly described above.  However
-       their corresponding attributes are described below.
-
-    .. attribute:: key
-
-       String key for the action (e.g. ``'edit'``), unique within the
-       grid.
-
-    .. attribute:: label
-
-       Label to be displayed for the action link.  If not set, will be
-       generated from :attr:`key` by calling
-       :meth:`~wuttjamaican:wuttjamaican.app.AppHandler.make_title()`.
-
-       See also :meth:`render_label()`.
-
-    .. attribute:: url
-
-       URL for the action link, if applicable.  This *can* be a simple
-       string, however that will cause every row in the grid to have
-       the same URL for this action.
-
-       A better way is to specify a callable which can return a unique
-       URL for each record.  The callable should expect ``(obj, i)``
-       args, for instance::
-
-          def myurl(obj, i):
-              return request.route_url('widgets.view', uuid=obj.uuid)
-
-          action = GridAction(request, 'view', url=myurl)
-
-       See also :meth:`get_url()`.
-
-    .. attribute:: icon
-
-       Name of icon to be shown for the action link.
-
-       See also :meth:`render_icon()`.
-    """
-
-    def __init__(
-            self,
-            request,
-            key,
-            label=None,
-            url=None,
-            icon=None,
-    ):
-        self.request = request
-        self.config = self.request.wutta_config
-        self.app = self.config.get_app()
-        self.key = key
-        self.url = url
-        self.label = label or self.app.make_title(key)
-        self.icon = icon or key
-
-    def render_icon(self):
-        """
-        Render the HTML snippet for the action link icon.
-
-        This uses :attr:`icon` to identify the named icon to be shown.
-        Output is something like (here ``'trash'`` is the icon name):
-
-        .. code-block:: html
-
-           <i class="fas fa-trash"></i>
-        """
-        if self.request.use_oruga:
-            raise NotImplementedError
-
-        return HTML.tag('i', class_=f'fas fa-{self.icon}')
-
-    def render_label(self):
-        """
-        Render the label text for the action link.
-
-        Default behavior is to return :attr:`label` as-is.
-        """
-        return self.label
-
-    def get_url(self, obj, i=None):
-        """
-        Returns the action link URL for the given object (model
-        instance).
-
-        If :attr:`url` is a simple string, it is returned as-is.
-
-        But if :attr:`url` is a callable (which is typically the most
-        useful), that will be called with the same ``(obj, i)`` args
-        passed along.
-
-        :param obj: Model instance of whatever type the parent grid is
-           setup to use.
-
-        :param i: Zero-based sequence for the object, within the
-           parent grid.
-
-        See also :attr:`url`.
-        """
-        if callable(self.url):
-            return self.url(obj, i)
-
-        return self.url
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/menus.py b/src/wuttaweb/menus.py
index 92e8162..0fe780d 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/menus.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/menus.py
@@ -122,11 +122,6 @@ class MenuHandler(GenericHandler):
                     'route': 'appinfo',
                     'perm': 'appinfo.list',
                 },
-                {
-                    'title': "Raw Settings",
-                    'route': 'settings',
-                    'perm': 'settings.list',
-                },
             ],
         }
 
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/forms/vue_template.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/forms/vue_template.mako
index a4e21ca..bee0d55 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/forms/vue_template.mako
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/templates/forms/vue_template.mako
@@ -10,31 +10,29 @@
       % endfor
     </section>
 
-    % if not form.readonly:
-        <div style="margin-top: 1.5rem; display: flex; gap: 0.5rem; justify-content: ${'end' if form.align_buttons_right else 'start'}; width: 100%; padding-left: 10rem;">
+    <div style="margin-top: 1.5rem; display: flex; gap: 0.5rem; justify-content: ${'end' if form.align_buttons_right else 'start'}; width: 100%; padding-left: 10rem;">
 
-          % if form.show_button_reset:
-              <b-button native-type="reset">
-                Reset
-              </b-button>
-          % endif
-
-          <b-button type="is-primary"
-                    native-type="submit"
-                    % if form.auto_disable_submit:
-                        :disabled="formSubmitting"
-                    % endif
-                    icon-pack="fas"
-                    icon-left="${form.button_icon_submit}">
-            % if form.auto_disable_submit:
-                {{ formSubmitting ? "Working, please wait..." : "${form.button_label_submit}" }}
-            % else:
-                ${form.button_label_submit}
-            % endif
+      % if form.show_button_reset:
+          <b-button native-type="reset">
+            Reset
           </b-button>
+      % endif
 
-        </div>
-    % endif
+      <b-button type="is-primary"
+                native-type="submit"
+                % if form.auto_disable_submit:
+                    :disabled="formSubmitting"
+                % endif
+                icon-pack="fas"
+                icon-left="${form.button_icon_submit}">
+        % if form.auto_disable_submit:
+            {{ formSubmitting ? "Working, please wait..." : "${form.button_label_submit}" }}
+        % else:
+            ${form.button_label_submit}
+        % endif
+      </b-button>
+
+    </div>
 
   ${h.end_form()}
 </script>
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako
deleted file mode 100644
index 8429ef5..0000000
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/grids/vue_template.mako
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,48 +0,0 @@
-## -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
-
-<script type="text/x-template" id="${grid.vue_tagname}-template">
-  <${b}-table :data="data"
-              hoverable
-              :loading="loading">
-
-    % for column in grid.get_vue_columns():
-        <${b}-table-column field="${column['field']}"
-                           label="${column['label']}"
-                           v-slot="props"
-                           cell-class="c_${column['field']}">
-          <span v-html="props.row.${column['field']}"></span>
-        </${b}-table-column>
-    % endfor
-
-    % if grid.actions:
-        <${b}-table-column field="actions"
-                           label="Actions"
-                           v-slot="props">
-          % for action in grid.actions:
-              <a :href="props.row._action_url_${action.key}">
-                ${action.render_icon()}
-                ${action.render_label()}
-              </a>
-              &nbsp;
-          % endfor
-        </${b}-table-column>
-    % endif
-
-  </${b}-table>
-</script>
-
-<script>
-
-  let ${grid.vue_component} = {
-      template: '#${grid.vue_tagname}-template',
-      methods: {},
-  }
-
-  let ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData = ${json.dumps(grid.get_vue_data())|n}
-
-  let ${grid.vue_component}Data = {
-      data: ${grid.vue_component}CurrentData,
-      loading: false,
-  }
-
-</script>
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/form.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/form.mako
deleted file mode 100644
index 72edaa2..0000000
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/form.mako
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,5 +0,0 @@
-## -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
-<%inherit file="/form.mako" />
-
-
-${parent.body()}
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/index.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/index.mako
index 2b6f14b..fd3d573 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/index.mako
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/index.mako
@@ -3,30 +3,11 @@
 
 <%def name="title()">${index_title}</%def>
 
-## nb. avoid hero bar for index page
 <%def name="content_title()"></%def>
 
 <%def name="page_content()">
-  % if grid is not Undefined:
-      ${grid.render_vue_tag()}
-  % endif
+  <p>TODO: index page content</p>
 </%def>
 
-<%def name="render_this_page_template()">
-  ${parent.render_this_page_template()}
-  % if grid is not Undefined:
-      ${grid.render_vue_template()}
-  % endif
-</%def>
-
-<%def name="finalize_this_page_vars()">
-  ${parent.finalize_this_page_vars()}
-  % if grid is not Undefined:
-      <script>
-        ${grid.vue_component}.data = function() { return ${grid.vue_component}Data }
-        Vue.component('${grid.vue_tagname}', ${grid.vue_component})
-      </script>
-  % endif
-</%def>
 
 ${parent.body()}
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/view.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/view.mako
deleted file mode 100644
index b84ebc1..0000000
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/master/view.mako
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,9 +0,0 @@
-## -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
-<%inherit file="/master/form.mako" />
-
-<%def name="title()">${index_title} &raquo; ${instance_title}</%def>
-
-<%def name="content_title()">${instance_title}</%def>
-
-
-${parent.body()}
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py
index ccdc749..94e22b2 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/base.py
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ Base Logic for Views
 
 from pyramid import httpexceptions
 
-from wuttaweb import forms, grids
+from wuttaweb import forms
 
 
 class View:
@@ -68,31 +68,11 @@ class View:
         Make and return a new :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.Form`
         instance, per the given ``kwargs``.
 
-        This is the "base" factory which merely invokes the
-        constructor.
+        This is the "default" form factory which merely invokes
+        the constructor.
         """
         return forms.Form(self.request, **kwargs)
 
-    def make_grid(self, **kwargs):
-        """
-        Make and return a new :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid`
-        instance, per the given ``kwargs``.
-
-        This is the "base" factory which merely invokes the
-        constructor.
-        """
-        return grids.Grid(self.request, **kwargs)
-
-    def make_grid_action(self, key, **kwargs):
-        """
-        Make and return a new :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.GridAction`
-        instance, per the given ``key`` and ``kwargs``.
-
-        This is the "base" factory which merely invokes the
-        constructor.
-        """
-        return grids.GridAction(self.request, key, **kwargs)
-
     def notfound(self):
         """
         Convenience method, to raise a HTTP 404 Not Found exception::
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
index f884f7a..2cf719a 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
@@ -100,25 +100,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
        Code should not access this directly but instead call
        :meth:`get_model_title_plural()`.
 
-    .. attribute:: model_key
-
-       Optional override for the view's "model key" - e.g. ``'id'``
-       (string for simple case) or composite key such as
-       ``('id_field', 'name_field')``.
-
-       If :attr:`model_class` is set to a SQLAlchemy mapped class, the
-       model key can be determined automatically.
-
-       Code should not access this directly but instead call
-       :meth:`get_model_key()`.
-
-    .. attribute:: grid_key
-
-       Optional override for the view's grid key, e.g. ``'widgets'``.
-
-       Code should not access this directly but instead call
-       :meth:`get_grid_key()`.
-
     .. attribute:: config_title
 
        Optional override for the view's "config" title, e.g. ``"Wutta
@@ -157,29 +138,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
        i.e. it should have an :meth:`index()` view.  Default value is
        ``True``.
 
-    .. attribute:: has_grid
-
-       Boolean indicating whether the :meth:`index()` view should
-       include a grid.  Default value is ``True``.
-
-    .. attribute:: grid_columns
-
-       List of columns for the :meth:`index()` view grid.
-
-       This is optional; see also :meth:`index_get_grid_columns()`.
-
-    .. attribute:: viewable
-
-       Boolean indicating whether the view model supports "viewing" -
-       i.e. it should have a :meth:`view()` view.  Default value is
-       ``True``.
-
-    .. attribute:: form_fields
-
-       List of columns for the model form.
-
-       This is optional; see also :meth:`get_form_fields()`.
-
     .. attribute:: configurable
 
        Boolean indicating whether the master view supports
@@ -193,13 +151,9 @@ class MasterView(View):
 
     # features
     listable = True
-    has_grid = True
-    viewable = True
     configurable = False
 
     # current action
-    listing = False
-    viewing = False
     configuring = False
 
     ##############################
@@ -216,158 +170,12 @@ class MasterView(View):
 
         By default, this view is included only if :attr:`listable` is
         true.
-
-        The default view logic will show a "grid" (table) with the
-        model data (unless :attr:`has_grid` is false).
-
-        See also related methods, which are called by this one:
-
-        * :meth:`index_make_grid()`
         """
-        self.listing = True
-
         context = {
-            'index_url': None, # nb. avoid title link since this *is* the index
+            'index_url': None,  # avoid title link since this *is* the index
         }
-
-        if self.has_grid:
-            context['grid'] = self.index_make_grid()
-
         return self.render_to_response('index', context)
 
-    def index_make_grid(self, **kwargs):
-        """
-        Create and return a :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid`
-        instance for use with the :meth:`index()` view.
-
-        See also related methods, which are called by this one:
-
-        * :meth:`get_grid_key()`
-        * :meth:`index_get_grid_columns()`
-        * :meth:`index_get_grid_data()`
-        * :meth:`index_configure_grid()`
-        """
-        if 'key' not in kwargs:
-            kwargs['key'] = self.get_grid_key()
-
-        if 'columns' not in kwargs:
-            kwargs['columns'] = self.index_get_grid_columns()
-
-        if 'data' not in kwargs:
-            kwargs['data'] = self.index_get_grid_data()
-
-        if 'actions' not in kwargs:
-            actions = []
-
-            # TODO: should split this off into index_get_grid_actions() ?
-            if self.viewable:
-                actions.append(self.make_grid_action('view', icon='eye',
-                                                     url=self.get_action_url_view))
-
-            kwargs['actions'] = actions
-
-        grid = self.make_grid(**kwargs)
-        self.index_configure_grid(grid)
-        return grid
-
-    def index_get_grid_columns(self):
-        """
-        Returns the default list of grid column names, for the
-        :meth:`index()` view.
-
-        This is called by :meth:`index_make_grid()`; in the resulting
-        :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid` instance, this becomes
-        :attr:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid.columns`.
-
-        This method may return ``None``, in which case the grid may
-        (try to) generate its own default list.
-
-        Subclass may define :attr:`grid_columns` for simple cases, or
-        can override this method if needed.
-
-        Also note that :meth:`index_configure_grid()` may be used to
-        further modify the final column set, regardless of what this
-        method returns.  So a common pattern is to declare all
-        "supported" columns by setting :attr:`grid_columns` but then
-        optionally remove or replace some of those within
-        :meth:`index_configure_grid()`.
-        """
-        if hasattr(self, 'grid_columns'):
-            return self.grid_columns
-
-    def index_get_grid_data(self):
-        """
-        Returns the grid data for the :meth:`index()` view.
-
-        This is called by :meth:`index_make_grid()`; in the resulting
-        :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid` instance, this becomes
-        :attr:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid.data`.
-
-        As of now there is not yet a "sane" default for this method;
-        it simply returns an empty list.  Subclass should override as
-        needed.
-        """
-        return []
-
-    def get_action_url_view(self, obj, i):
-        """
-        Returns the "view" grid action URL for the given object.
-
-        Most typically this is like ``/widgets/XXX`` where ``XXX``
-        represents the object's key/ID.
-        """
-        route_prefix = self.get_route_prefix()
-
-        kw = {}
-        for key in self.get_model_key():
-            kw[key] = obj[key]
-
-        return self.request.route_url(f'{route_prefix}.view', **kw)
-
-    def index_configure_grid(self, grid):
-        """
-        Configure the grid for the :meth:`index()` view.
-
-        This is called by :meth:`index_make_grid()`.
-
-        There is no default logic here; subclass should override as
-        needed.  The ``grid`` param will already be "complete" and
-        ready to use as-is, but this method can further modify it
-        based on request details etc.
-        """
-
-    ##############################
-    # view methods
-    ##############################
-
-    def view(self):
-        """
-        View to "view" details of an existing model record.
-
-        This usually corresponds to a URL like ``/widgets/XXX``
-        where ``XXX`` represents the key/ID for the record.
-
-        By default, this view is included only if :attr:`viewable` is
-        true.
-
-        The default view logic will show a read-only form with field
-        values displayed.
-
-        See also related methods, which are called by this one:
-
-        * :meth:`make_model_form()`
-        """
-        self.viewing = True
-        instance = self.get_instance()
-        form = self.make_model_form(instance, readonly=True)
-
-        context = {
-            'instance': instance,
-            'instance_title': self.get_instance_title(instance),
-            'form': form,
-        }
-        return self.render_to_response('view', context)
-
     ##############################
     # configure methods
     ##############################
@@ -643,12 +451,14 @@ class MasterView(View):
         Save the given settings to the DB; this is called by
         :meth:`configure()`.
 
-        This method expects a list of name/value dicts and will simply
-        save each to the DB, with no "conversion" logic.
+        This method expected a list of name/value dicts and will
+        simply save each to the DB, with no "conversion" logic.
 
         :param settings: List of normalized setting definitions, as
            returned by :meth:`configure_gather_settings()`.
         """
+        # app = self.get_rattail_app()
+
         # nb. must avoid self.Session here in case that does not point
         # to our primary app DB
         session = Session()
@@ -660,6 +470,26 @@ class MasterView(View):
     # support methods
     ##############################
 
+    def get_index_title(self):
+        """
+        Returns the main index title for the master view.
+
+        By default this returns the value from
+        :meth:`get_model_title_plural()`.  Subclass may override as
+        needed.
+        """
+        return self.get_model_title_plural()
+
+    def get_index_url(self, **kwargs):
+        """
+        Returns the URL for master's :meth:`index()` view.
+
+        NB. this returns ``None`` if :attr:`listable` is false.
+        """
+        if self.listable:
+            route_prefix = self.get_route_prefix()
+            return self.request.route_url(route_prefix, **kwargs)
+
     def render_to_response(self, template, context):
         """
         Locate and render an appropriate template, with the given
@@ -738,110 +568,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
         """
         return [f'/master/{template}.mako']
 
-    def get_index_title(self):
-        """
-        Returns the main index title for the master view.
-
-        By default this returns the value from
-        :meth:`get_model_title_plural()`.  Subclass may override as
-        needed.
-        """
-        return self.get_model_title_plural()
-
-    def get_index_url(self, **kwargs):
-        """
-        Returns the URL for master's :meth:`index()` view.
-
-        NB. this returns ``None`` if :attr:`listable` is false.
-        """
-        if self.listable:
-            route_prefix = self.get_route_prefix()
-            return self.request.route_url(route_prefix, **kwargs)
-
-    def get_instance(self):
-        """
-        This should return the "current" model instance based on the
-        request details (e.g. route kwargs).
-
-        If the instance cannot be found, this should raise a HTTP 404
-        exception, i.e. :meth:`~wuttaweb.views.base.View.notfound()`.
-
-        There is no "sane" default logic here; subclass *must*
-        override or else a ``NotImplementedError`` is raised.
-        """
-        raise NotImplementedError("you must define get_instance() method "
-                                  f" for view class: {self.__class__}")
-
-    def get_instance_title(self, instance):
-        """
-        Return the human-friendly "title" for the instance, to be used
-        in the page title when viewing etc.
-
-        Default logic returns the value from ``str(instance)``;
-        subclass may override if needed.
-        """
-        return str(instance)
-
-    def make_model_form(self, model_instance=None, **kwargs):
-        """
-        Create and return a :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.Form`
-        for the view model.
-
-        Note that this method is called for multiple "CRUD" views,
-        e.g.:
-
-        * :meth:`view()`
-
-        See also related methods, which are called by this one:
-
-        * :meth:`get_form_fields()`
-        * :meth:`configure_form()`
-        """
-        kwargs['model_instance'] = model_instance
-
-        if 'fields' not in kwargs:
-            kwargs['fields'] = self.get_form_fields()
-
-        form = self.make_form(**kwargs)
-        self.configure_form(form)
-        return form
-
-    def get_form_fields(self):
-        """
-        Returns the initial list of field names for the model form.
-
-        This is called by :meth:`make_model_form()`; in the resulting
-        :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.Form` instance, this becomes
-        :attr:`~wuttaweb.forms.base.Form.fields`.
-
-        This method may return ``None``, in which case the form may
-        (try to) generate its own default list.
-
-        Subclass may define :attr:`form_fields` for simple cases, or
-        can override this method if needed.
-
-        Note that :meth:`configure_form()` may be used to further
-        modify the final field list, regardless of what this method
-        returns.  So a common pattern is to declare all "supported"
-        fields by setting :attr:`form_fields` but then optionally
-        remove or replace some in :meth:`configure_form()`.
-        """
-        if hasattr(self, 'form_fields'):
-            return self.form_fields
-
-    def configure_form(self, form):
-        """
-        Configure the given model form, as needed.
-
-        This is called by :meth:`make_model_form()` - for multiple
-        CRUD views.
-
-        There is no default logic here; subclass should override if
-        needed.  The ``form`` param will already be "complete" and
-        ready to use as-is, but this method can further modify it
-        based on request details etc.
-        """
-
     ##############################
     # class methods
     ##############################
@@ -937,32 +663,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
         model_title = cls.get_model_title()
         return f"{model_title}s"
 
-    @classmethod
-    def get_model_key(cls):
-        """
-        Returns the "model key" for the master view.
-
-        This should return a tuple containing one or more "field
-        names" corresponding to the primary key for data records.
-
-        In the most simple/common scenario, where the master view
-        represents a Wutta-based SQLAlchemy model, the return value
-        for this method is: ``('uuid',)``
-
-        But there is no "sane" default for other scenarios, in which
-        case subclass should define :attr:`model_key`.  If the model
-        key cannot be determined, raises ``AttributeError``.
-
-        :returns: Tuple of field names comprising the model key.
-        """
-        if hasattr(cls, 'model_key'):
-            keys = cls.model_key
-            if isinstance(keys, str):
-                keys = [keys]
-            return tuple(keys)
-
-        raise AttributeError(f"you must define model_key for view class: {cls}")
-
     @classmethod
     def get_route_prefix(cls):
         """
@@ -1013,27 +713,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
         route_prefix = cls.get_route_prefix()
         return f'/{route_prefix}'
 
-    @classmethod
-    def get_instance_url_prefix(cls):
-        """
-        Generate the URL prefix specific to an instance for this model
-        view.  This will include model key param placeholders; it
-        winds up looking like:
-
-        * ``/widgets/{uuid}``
-        * ``/resources/{foo}|{bar}|{baz}``
-
-        The former being the most simple/common, and the latter
-        showing what a "composite" model key looks like, with pipe
-        symbols separating the key parts.
-        """
-        prefix = cls.get_url_prefix() + '/'
-        for i, key in enumerate(cls.get_model_key()):
-            if i:
-                prefix += '|'
-            prefix += f'{{{key}}}'
-        return prefix
-
     @classmethod
     def get_template_prefix(cls):
         """
@@ -1059,26 +738,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
 
         return cls.get_url_prefix()
 
-    @classmethod
-    def get_grid_key(cls):
-        """
-        Returns the (presumably) unique key to be used for the primary
-        grid in the :meth:`index()` view.  This key may also be used
-        as the basis (key prefix) for secondary grids.
-
-        This is called from :meth:`index_make_grid()`; in the
-        resulting :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid` instance, this
-        becomes :attr:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid.key`.
-
-        The default logic for this method will call
-        :meth:`get_route_prefix()` and return that value as-is.  A
-        subclass may override by assigning :attr:`grid_key`.
-        """
-        if hasattr(cls, 'grid_key'):
-            return cls.grid_key
-
-        return cls.get_route_prefix()
-
     @classmethod
     def get_config_title(cls):
         """
@@ -1135,13 +794,6 @@ class MasterView(View):
             config.add_view(cls, attr='index',
                             route_name=route_prefix)
 
-        # view
-        if cls.viewable:
-            instance_url_prefix = cls.get_instance_url_prefix()
-            config.add_route(f'{route_prefix}.view', instance_url_prefix)
-            config.add_view(cls, attr='view',
-                            route_name=f'{route_prefix}.view')
-
         # configure
         if cls.configurable:
             config.add_route(f'{route_prefix}.configure',
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py
index 1082287..bfe6830 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py
@@ -26,11 +26,8 @@ Views for app settings
 
 from collections import OrderedDict
 
-from wuttjamaican.db.model import Setting
-
 from wuttaweb.views import MasterView
 from wuttaweb.util import get_libver, get_liburl
-from wuttaweb.db import Session
 
 
 class AppInfoView(MasterView):
@@ -41,16 +38,10 @@ class AppInfoView(MasterView):
 
     * ``/appinfo/``
     * ``/appinfo/configure``
-
-    See also :class:`SettingView`.
     """
     model_name = 'AppInfo'
     model_title_plural = "App Info"
     route_prefix = 'appinfo'
-    has_grid = False
-    viewable = False
-    editable = False
-    deletable = False
     configurable = True
 
     def configure_get_simple_settings(self):
@@ -112,6 +103,8 @@ class AppInfoView(MasterView):
             ('bb_vue_fontawesome', "(BB) @fortawesome/vue-fontawesome"),
         ])
 
+        # import ipdb; ipdb.set_trace()
+
         for key in weblibs:
             title = weblibs[key]
             weblibs[key] = {
@@ -134,79 +127,12 @@ class AppInfoView(MasterView):
         return context
 
 
-class SettingView(MasterView):
-    """
-    Master view for the "raw" settings table.
-
-    Notable URLs provided by this class:
-
-    * ``/settings/``
-
-    See also :class:`AppInfoView`.
-    """
-    model_class = Setting
-    model_title = "Raw Setting"
-
-    # TODO: this should be deduced by master
-    model_key = 'name'
-
-    # TODO: try removing these
-    grid_columns = [
-        'name',
-        'value',
-    ]
-    form_fields = list(grid_columns)
-
-    # TODO: should define query, let master handle the rest
-    def index_get_grid_data(self, session=None):
-        """ """
-        model = self.app.model
-
-        session = session or Session()
-        query = session.query(model.Setting)\
-                          .order_by(model.Setting.name)
-
-        settings = []
-        for setting in query:
-            settings.append(self.normalize_setting(setting))
-
-        return settings
-
-    # TODO: master should handle this (but not as dict)
-    def normalize_setting(self, setting):
-        """ """
-        return {
-            'name': setting.name,
-            'value': setting.value,
-        }
-
-    # TODO: master should handle this
-    def get_instance(self, session=None):
-        """ """
-        model = self.app.model
-        session = session or Session()
-        name = self.request.matchdict['name']
-        setting = session.query(model.Setting).get(name)
-        if setting:
-            return self.normalize_setting(setting)
-
-        return self.notfound()
-
-    # TODO: master should handle this
-    def get_instance_title(self, setting):
-        """ """
-        return setting['name']
-
-
 def defaults(config, **kwargs):
     base = globals()
 
     AppInfoView = kwargs.get('AppInfoView', base['AppInfoView'])
     AppInfoView.defaults(config)
 
-    SettingView = kwargs.get('SettingView', base['SettingView'])
-    SettingView.defaults(config)
-
 
 def includeme(config):
     defaults(config)
diff --git a/tests/forms/test_base.py b/tests/forms/test_base.py
index 5270f0f..5e29ad6 100644
--- a/tests/forms/test_base.py
+++ b/tests/forms/test_base.py
@@ -59,8 +59,8 @@ class TestForm(TestCase):
     def tearDown(self):
         testing.tearDown()
 
-    def make_form(self, **kwargs):
-        return base.Form(self.request, **kwargs)
+    def make_form(self, request=None, **kwargs):
+        return base.Form(request or self.request, **kwargs)
 
     def make_schema(self):
         schema = colander.Schema(children=[
@@ -124,33 +124,19 @@ class TestForm(TestCase):
         self.assertIs(form.schema, schema)
         self.assertIs(form.get_schema(), schema)
 
-        # schema is auto-generated if fields provided
+        # auto-generating schema not yet supported
         form = self.make_form(fields=['foo', 'bar'])
-        schema = form.get_schema()
-        self.assertEqual(len(schema.children), 2)
-        self.assertEqual(schema['foo'].name, 'foo')
-
-        # but auto-generating without fields is not supported
-        form = self.make_form()
         self.assertIsNone(form.schema)
         self.assertRaises(NotImplementedError, form.get_schema)
 
     def test_get_deform(self):
         schema = self.make_schema()
-
-        # basic
         form = self.make_form(schema=schema)
         self.assertFalse(hasattr(form, 'deform_form'))
         dform = form.get_deform()
         self.assertIsInstance(dform, deform.Form)
         self.assertIs(form.deform_form, dform)
 
-        # with model instance / cstruct
-        myobj = {'foo': 'one', 'bar': 'two'}
-        form = self.make_form(schema=schema, model_instance=myobj)
-        dform = form.get_deform()
-        self.assertEqual(dform.cstruct, myobj)
-
     def test_get_label(self):
         form = self.make_form(fields=['foo', 'bar'])
         self.assertEqual(form.get_label('foo'), "Foo")
@@ -207,13 +193,6 @@ class TestForm(TestCase):
         # nb. no error message
         self.assertNotIn('message', html)
 
-        # readonly
-        html = form.render_vue_field('foo', readonly=True)
-        self.assertIn('<b-field :horizontal="true" label="Foo">', html)
-        self.assertNotIn('<b-input name="foo"', html)
-        # nb. no error message
-        self.assertNotIn('message', html)
-
         # with single "static" error
         dform['foo'].error = MagicMock(msg="something is wrong")
         html = form.render_vue_field('foo')
diff --git a/tests/grids/__init__.py b/tests/grids/__init__.py
deleted file mode 100644
index e69de29..0000000
diff --git a/tests/grids/test_base.py b/tests/grids/test_base.py
deleted file mode 100644
index faab631..0000000
--- a/tests/grids/test_base.py
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,150 +0,0 @@
-# -*- coding: utf-8; -*-
-
-from unittest import TestCase
-
-from pyramid import testing
-
-from wuttjamaican.conf import WuttaConfig
-from wuttaweb.grids import base
-from wuttaweb.forms import FieldList
-
-
-class TestGrid(TestCase):
-
-    def setUp(self):
-        self.config = WuttaConfig(defaults={
-            'wutta.web.menus.handler_spec': 'tests.utils:NullMenuHandler',
-        })
-
-        self.request = testing.DummyRequest(wutta_config=self.config, use_oruga=False)
-
-        self.pyramid_config = testing.setUp(request=self.request, settings={
-            'mako.directories': ['wuttaweb:templates'],
-        })
-
-    def tearDown(self):
-        testing.tearDown()
-
-    def make_grid(self, request=None, **kwargs):
-        return base.Grid(request or self.request, **kwargs)
-
-    def test_constructor(self):
-
-        # empty
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        self.assertIsNone(grid.key)
-        self.assertIsNone(grid.columns)
-        self.assertIsNone(grid.data)
-
-        # now with columns
-        grid = self.make_grid(columns=['foo', 'bar'])
-        self.assertIsInstance(grid.columns, FieldList)
-        self.assertEqual(grid.columns, ['foo', 'bar'])
-
-    def test_vue_tagname(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        self.assertEqual(grid.vue_tagname, 'wutta-grid')
-
-    def test_vue_component(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        self.assertEqual(grid.vue_component, 'WuttaGrid')
-
-    def test_render_vue_tag(self):
-        grid = self.make_grid(columns=['foo', 'bar'])
-        html = grid.render_vue_tag()
-        self.assertEqual(html, '<wutta-grid></wutta-grid>')
-
-    def test_render_vue_template(self):
-        self.pyramid_config.include('pyramid_mako')
-        self.pyramid_config.add_subscriber('wuttaweb.subscribers.before_render',
-                                           'pyramid.events.BeforeRender')
-
-        grid = self.make_grid(columns=['foo', 'bar'])
-        html = grid.render_vue_template()
-        self.assertIn('<script type="text/x-template" id="wutta-grid-template">', html)
-
-    def test_get_vue_columns(self):
-
-        # error if no columns are set
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        self.assertRaises(ValueError, grid.get_vue_columns)
-
-        # otherwise get back field/label dicts
-        grid = self.make_grid(columns=['foo', 'bar'])
-        columns = grid.get_vue_columns()
-        first = columns[0]
-        self.assertEqual(first['field'], 'foo')
-        self.assertEqual(first['label'], 'Foo')
-
-    def test_get_vue_data(self):
-
-        # null by default
-        grid = self.make_grid()
-        data = grid.get_vue_data()
-        self.assertIsNone(data)
-
-        # is usually a list
-        mydata = [
-            {'foo': 'bar'},
-        ]
-        grid = self.make_grid(data=mydata)
-        data = grid.get_vue_data()
-        self.assertIs(data, mydata)
-        self.assertEqual(data, [{'foo': 'bar'}])
-
-        # if grid has actions, that list may be supplemented
-        grid.actions.append(base.GridAction(self.request, 'view', url='/blarg'))
-        data = grid.get_vue_data()
-        self.assertIsNot(data, mydata)
-        self.assertEqual(data, [{'foo': 'bar', '_action_url_view': '/blarg'}])
-
-
-class TestGridAction(TestCase):
-
-    def setUp(self):
-        self.config = WuttaConfig()
-        self.request = testing.DummyRequest(wutta_config=self.config, use_oruga=False)
-
-    def make_action(self, key, **kwargs):
-        return base.GridAction(self.request, key, **kwargs)
-
-    def test_render_icon(self):
-
-        # icon is derived from key by default
-        action = self.make_action('blarg')
-        html = action.render_icon()
-        self.assertIn('<i class="fas fa-blarg">', html)
-
-        # oruga not yet supported
-        self.request.use_oruga = True
-        self.assertRaises(NotImplementedError, action.render_icon)
-
-    def test_render_label(self):
-
-        # label is derived from key by default
-        action = self.make_action('blarg')
-        label = action.render_label()
-        self.assertEqual(label, "Blarg")
-
-        # otherwise use what caller provides
-        action = self.make_action('foo', label="Bar")
-        label = action.render_label()
-        self.assertEqual(label, "Bar")
-
-    def test_get_url(self):
-        obj = {'foo': 'bar'}
-
-        # null by default
-        action = self.make_action('blarg')
-        url = action.get_url(obj)
-        self.assertIsNone(url)
-
-        # or can be "static"
-        action = self.make_action('blarg', url='/foo')
-        url = action.get_url(obj)
-        self.assertEqual(url, '/foo')
-
-        # or can be "dynamic"
-        action = self.make_action('blarg', url=lambda o, i: '/yeehaw')
-        url = action.get_url(obj)
-        self.assertEqual(url, '/yeehaw')
diff --git a/tests/views/test_base.py b/tests/views/test_base.py
index 67f3f93..6e2f126 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_base.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_base.py
@@ -8,7 +8,6 @@ from pyramid.httpexceptions import HTTPFound, HTTPForbidden, HTTPNotFound
 from wuttjamaican.conf import WuttaConfig
 from wuttaweb.views import base
 from wuttaweb.forms import Form
-from wuttaweb.grids import Grid
 
 
 class TestView(TestCase):
@@ -32,10 +31,6 @@ class TestView(TestCase):
         form = self.view.make_form()
         self.assertIsInstance(form, Form)
 
-    def test_make_grid(self):
-        grid = self.view.make_grid()
-        self.assertIsInstance(grid, Grid)
-
     def test_notfound(self):
         error = self.view.notfound()
         self.assertIsInstance(error, HTTPNotFound)
diff --git a/tests/views/test_master.py b/tests/views/test_master.py
index f7894ba..3380a8e 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_master.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_master.py
@@ -19,9 +19,8 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
 
     def test_defaults(self):
         master.MasterView.model_name = 'Widget'
-        with patch.object(master.MasterView, 'viewable', new=False):
-            # TODO: should inspect pyramid routes after this, to be certain
-            master.MasterView.defaults(self.pyramid_config)
+        # TODO: should inspect pyramid routes after this, to be certain
+        master.MasterView.defaults(self.pyramid_config)
         del master.MasterView.model_name
 
     ##############################
@@ -123,16 +122,6 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
         self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_model_title_plural(), "Dinosaurs")
         del master.MasterView.model_class
 
-    def test_get_model_key(self):
-
-        # error by default (since no model class)
-        self.assertRaises(AttributeError, master.MasterView.get_model_key)
-
-        # subclass may specify model key
-        master.MasterView.model_key = 'uuid'
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_model_key(), ('uuid',))
-        del master.MasterView.model_key
-
     def test_get_route_prefix(self):
         
         # error by default (since no model class)
@@ -190,25 +179,6 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
         self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_url_prefix(), '/machines')
         del master.MasterView.model_class
 
-    def test_get_instance_url_prefix(self):
-
-        # error by default (since no model class)
-        self.assertRaises(AttributeError, master.MasterView.get_instance_url_prefix)
-
-        # typical example with url_prefix and simple key
-        master.MasterView.url_prefix = '/widgets'
-        master.MasterView.model_key = 'uuid'
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_instance_url_prefix(), '/widgets/{uuid}')
-        del master.MasterView.url_prefix
-        del master.MasterView.model_key
-
-        # typical example with composite key
-        master.MasterView.url_prefix = '/widgets'
-        master.MasterView.model_key = ('foo', 'bar')
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_instance_url_prefix(), '/widgets/{foo}|{bar}')
-        del master.MasterView.url_prefix
-        del master.MasterView.model_key
-
     def test_get_template_prefix(self):
         
         # error by default (since no model class)
@@ -245,37 +215,6 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
         self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_template_prefix(), '/machines')
         del master.MasterView.model_class
 
-    def test_get_grid_key(self):
-
-        # error by default (since no model class)
-        self.assertRaises(AttributeError, master.MasterView.get_grid_key)
-
-        # subclass may specify grid key
-        master.MasterView.grid_key = 'widgets'
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_grid_key(), 'widgets')
-        del master.MasterView.grid_key
-
-        # or it may specify route prefix
-        master.MasterView.route_prefix = 'trucks'
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_grid_key(), 'trucks')
-        del master.MasterView.route_prefix
-
-        # or it may specify *normalized* model name
-        master.MasterView.model_name_normalized = 'blaster'
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_grid_key(), 'blasters')
-        del master.MasterView.model_name_normalized
-
-        # or it may specify *standard* model name
-        master.MasterView.model_name = 'Dinosaur'
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_grid_key(), 'dinosaurs')
-        del master.MasterView.model_name
-
-        # or it may specify model class
-        MyModel = MagicMock(__name__='Machine')
-        master.MasterView.model_class = MyModel
-        self.assertEqual(master.MasterView.get_grid_key(), 'machines')
-        del master.MasterView.model_class
-
     def test_get_config_title(self):
 
         # error by default (since no model class)
@@ -311,6 +250,12 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
     # support methods
     ##############################
 
+    def test_get_index_title(self):
+        master.MasterView.model_title_plural = "Wutta Widgets"
+        view = master.MasterView(self.request)
+        self.assertEqual(view.get_index_title(), "Wutta Widgets")
+        del master.MasterView.model_title_plural
+
     def test_render_to_response(self):
 
         def widgets(request): return {}
@@ -341,50 +286,21 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
         self.assertRaises(IOError, view.render_to_response, 'nonexistent', {})
         del master.MasterView.model_name
 
-    def test_get_index_title(self):
-        master.MasterView.model_title_plural = "Wutta Widgets"
-        view = master.MasterView(self.request)
-        self.assertEqual(view.get_index_title(), "Wutta Widgets")
-        del master.MasterView.model_title_plural
-
-    def test_get_instance(self):
-        view = master.MasterView(self.request)
-        self.assertRaises(NotImplementedError, view.get_instance)
-
     ##############################
     # view methods
     ##############################
 
     def test_index(self):
         
-        # sanity/coverage check using /settings/
-        master.MasterView.model_name = 'Setting'
-        master.MasterView.model_key = 'name'
-        master.MasterView.grid_columns = ['name', 'value']
+        # basic sanity check using /appinfo
+        master.MasterView.model_name = 'AppInfo'
+        master.MasterView.route_prefix = 'appinfo'
+        master.MasterView.template_prefix = '/appinfo'
         view = master.MasterView(self.request)
         response = view.index()
-        # then again with data, to include view action url
-        data = [{'name': 'foo', 'value': 'bar'}]
-        with patch.object(view, 'index_get_grid_data', return_value=data):
-            response = view.index()
         del master.MasterView.model_name
-        del master.MasterView.model_key
-        del master.MasterView.grid_columns
-
-    def test_view(self):
-
-        # sanity/coverage check using /settings/XXX
-        master.MasterView.model_name = 'Setting'
-        master.MasterView.grid_columns = ['name', 'value']
-        master.MasterView.form_fields = ['name', 'value']
-        view = master.MasterView(self.request)
-        setting = {'name': 'foo.bar', 'value': 'baz'}
-        self.request.matchdict = {'name': 'foo.bar'}
-        with patch.object(view, 'get_instance', return_value=setting):
-            response = view.view()
-        del master.MasterView.model_name
-        del master.MasterView.grid_columns
-        del master.MasterView.form_fields
+        del master.MasterView.route_prefix
+        del master.MasterView.template_prefix
 
     def test_configure(self):
         model = self.app.model
diff --git a/tests/views/test_settings.py b/tests/views/test_settings.py
index 81d95f3..310c214 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_settings.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_settings.py
@@ -2,66 +2,22 @@
 
 from tests.views.utils import WebTestCase
 
-from pyramid.httpexceptions import HTTPNotFound
-
 from wuttaweb.views import settings
 
 
 class TestAppInfoView(WebTestCase):
 
-    def make_view(self):
-        return settings.AppInfoView(self.request)
-
     def test_index(self):
         # sanity/coverage check
-        view = self.make_view()
+        view = settings.AppInfoView(self.request)
         response = view.index()
 
     def test_configure_get_simple_settings(self):
         # sanity/coverage check
-        view = self.make_view()
+        view = settings.AppInfoView(self.request)
         simple = view.configure_get_simple_settings()
 
     def test_configure_get_context(self):
         # sanity/coverage check
-        view = self.make_view()
+        view = settings.AppInfoView(self.request)
         context = view.configure_get_context()
-
-
-class TestSettingView(WebTestCase):
-
-    def make_view(self):
-        return settings.SettingView(self.request)
-
-    def test_index_get_grid_data(self):
-
-        # empty data by default
-        view = self.make_view()
-        data = view.index_get_grid_data(session=self.session)
-        self.assertEqual(len(data), 0)
-
-        # unless we save some settings
-        self.app.save_setting(self.session, 'foo', 'bar')
-        self.session.commit()
-        data = view.index_get_grid_data(session=self.session)
-        self.assertEqual(len(data), 1)
-
-    def test_get_instance(self):
-        view = self.make_view()
-        self.request.matchdict = {'name': 'foo'}
-
-        # setting not found
-        setting = view.get_instance(session=self.session)
-        self.assertIsInstance(setting, HTTPNotFound)
-
-        # setting is returned
-        self.app.save_setting(self.session, 'foo', 'bar')
-        self.session.commit()
-        setting = view.get_instance(session=self.session)
-        self.assertEqual(setting, {'name': 'foo', 'value': 'bar'})
-
-    def test_get_instance_title(self):
-        setting = {'name': 'foo', 'value': 'bar'}
-        view = self.make_view()
-        title = view.get_instance_title(setting)
-        self.assertEqual(title, 'foo')