diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index 899001e..47940ea 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -5,6 +5,20 @@ All notable changes to wuttaweb will be documented in this file.
 The format is based on [Keep a Changelog](http://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/)
 and this project adheres to [Semantic Versioning](http://semver.org/spec/v2.0.0.html).
 
+## v0.29.0 (2026-03-04)
+
+### Feat
+
+- allow widget factory override for `ObjectRef` schema type
+- add way to declare related versions for history in MasterView
+
+### Fix
+
+- expose default grid pagesize in appinfo config
+- fix timezone edge case for `WuttaDateWidget`
+- sort roles by name when viewing user
+- make pylint happy
+
 ## v0.28.2 (2026-02-25)
 
 ### Fix
diff --git a/pyproject.toml b/pyproject.toml
index 5b7eb80..d22a6d7 100644
--- a/pyproject.toml
+++ b/pyproject.toml
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ build-backend = "hatchling.build"
 
 [project]
 name = "WuttaWeb"
-version = "0.28.2"
+version = "0.29.0"
 description = "Web App for Wutta Framework"
 readme = "README.md"
 authors = [{name = "Lance Edgar", email = "lance@wuttaproject.org"}]
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@ dependencies = [
 
 
 [project.optional-dependencies]
-continuum = ["Wutta-Continuum>=0.3.0"]
+continuum = ["Wutta-Continuum>=0.3.3"]
 docs = ["Sphinx", "furo", "sphinxcontrib-programoutput"]
 tests = ["pylint", "pytest", "pytest-cov", "tox", "WebTest"]
 
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/forms/schema.py b/src/wuttaweb/forms/schema.py
index e002c0b..20f957b 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/forms/schema.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/forms/schema.py
@@ -457,6 +457,7 @@ class ObjectRef(colander.SchemaType):
         :returns: Instance of
            :class:`~wuttaweb.forms.widgets.ObjectRefWidget`.
         """
+        factory = kwargs.pop("factory", widgets.ObjectRefWidget)
 
         if "values" not in kwargs:
             query = self.get_query()
@@ -469,7 +470,7 @@ class ObjectRef(colander.SchemaType):
         if "url" not in kwargs:
             kwargs["url"] = self.get_object_url
 
-        return widgets.ObjectRefWidget(self.request, **kwargs)
+        return factory(self.request, **kwargs)
 
     def get_object_url(self, obj):
         """
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/forms/widgets.py b/src/wuttaweb/forms/widgets.py
index 93be573..ac65667 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/forms/widgets.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/forms/widgets.py
@@ -234,7 +234,10 @@ class WuttaDateWidget(DateInputWidget):
         """ """
         readonly = kw.get("readonly", self.readonly)
         if readonly and cstruct:
-            dt = datetime.datetime.fromisoformat(cstruct)
+            try:
+                dt = datetime.date.fromisoformat(cstruct)
+            except ValueError:
+                dt = datetime.datetime.fromisoformat(cstruct)
             return self.app.render_date(dt)
 
         return super().serialize(field, cstruct, **kw)
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/appinfo/configure.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/appinfo/configure.mako
index fc0d886..2cc4dc9 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/appinfo/configure.mako
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/templates/appinfo/configure.mako
@@ -158,6 +158,24 @@
 
   </div>
 
+  <h3 class="block is-size-3">Grids</h3>
+  <div class="block" style="padding-left: 2rem; width: 50%;">
+
+    <b-field label="Default Page Size"
+             :message="simpleSettings['wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize'] ? '' : 'Current default page size is: ${grid_pagesize_default}'">
+      <b-select name="wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize"
+                v-model="simpleSettings['wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize']"
+                @input="settingsNeedSaved = true">
+        <option :value="null">(use default)</option>
+        <option v-for="option in gridPagesizeOptions"
+                :value="option">
+          {{ option }}
+        </option>
+      </b-select>
+    </b-field>
+
+  </div>
+
   <h3 class="block is-size-3">Web Libraries</h3>
   <div class="block" style="padding-left: 2rem;">
 
@@ -348,6 +366,8 @@
 
     ThisPageData.validators.push(ThisPage.methods.timezoneValidate)
 
+    ThisPageData.gridPagesizeOptions = ${json.dumps(grid_pagesize_options)|n}
+
     ThisPageData.weblibs = ${json.dumps(weblibs or [])|n}
 
     ThisPageData.editWebLibraryShowDialog = false
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
index 1f919c1..5f48e50 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/master.py
@@ -1248,8 +1248,11 @@ class MasterView(View):  # pylint: disable=too-many-public-methods
 
         Default query will locate SQLAlchemy-Continuum ``transaction``
         records which are associated with versions of the given model
-        instance.  See also
-        :func:`wutta-continuum:wutta_continuum.util.model_transaction_query()`.
+        instance.  See also:
+
+        * :meth:`get_version_joins()`
+        * :meth:`normalize_version_joins()`
+        * :func:`~wutta-continuum:wutta_continuum.util.model_transaction_query()`
 
         :returns: :class:`~sqlalchemy:sqlalchemy.orm.Query` instance
         """
@@ -1260,9 +1263,67 @@ class MasterView(View):  # pylint: disable=too-many-public-methods
 
         model_class = self.get_model_class()
         txncls = continuum.transaction_class(model_class)
-        query = model_transaction_query(instance)
+        query = model_transaction_query(instance, joins=self.normalize_version_joins())
         return query.order_by(txncls.issued_at.desc())
 
+    def get_version_joins(self):
+        """
+        Override this method to declare additional version tables
+        which should be joined when showing the overall revision
+        history for a given model instance.
+
+        Note that whatever this method returns, will be ran through
+        :meth:`normalize_version_joins()` before being passed along to
+        :func:`~wutta-continuum:wutta_continuum.util.model_transaction_query()`.
+
+        :returns: List of version joins info as described below.
+
+        In the simple scenario where an "extension" table is involved,
+        e.g.  a ``UserExtension`` table::
+
+           def get_version_joins(self):
+               model = self.app.model
+               return super().get_version_joins() + [
+                   model.UserExtension,
+               ]
+
+        In the case where a secondary table is "related" to the main
+        model table, but not a standard extension (using the
+        ``User.person`` relationship as example)::
+
+           def get_version_joins(self):
+               model = self.app.model
+               return super().get_version_joins() + [
+                   (model.Person, "uuid", "person_uuid"),
+               ]
+
+        See also :meth:`get_version_grid_data()`.
+        """
+        return []
+
+    def normalize_version_joins(self):
+        """
+        This method calls :meth:`get_version_joins()` and normalizes
+        the result, which will then get passed along to
+        :func:`~wutta-continuum:wutta_continuum.util.model_transaction_query()`.
+
+        Subclass should (generally) not override this, but instead
+        override :meth:`get_version_joins()`.
+
+        Each element in the return value (list) will be a 3-tuple
+        conforming to what is needed for the query function.
+
+        See also :meth:`get_version_grid_data()`.
+
+        :returns: List of version joins info.
+        """
+        joins = []
+        for join in self.get_version_joins():
+            if not isinstance(join, tuple):
+                join = (join, "uuid", "uuid")
+            joins.append(join)
+        return joins
+
     def configure_version_grid(self, g):
         """
         Configure the grid for the :meth:`view_versions()` view.
@@ -1326,7 +1387,9 @@ class MasterView(View):  # pylint: disable=too-many-public-methods
         model_class = self.get_model_class()
         route_prefix = self.get_route_prefix()
         txncls = continuum.transaction_class(model_class)
-        transactions = model_transaction_query(instance)
+        transactions = model_transaction_query(
+            instance, joins=self.normalize_version_joins()
+        )
 
         txnid = self.request.matchdict["txnid"]
         txn = transactions.filter(txncls.id == txnid).first()
@@ -1408,15 +1471,34 @@ class MasterView(View):  # pylint: disable=too-many-public-methods
 
         :returns: List of version records.
         """
+        import sqlalchemy_continuum as continuum  # pylint: disable=import-outside-toplevel
+
         session = self.Session()
         vercls = self.get_model_version_class()
-        return (
+        versions = []
+
+        # first get all versions for the model instance proper
+        versions.extend(
             session.query(vercls)
             .filter(vercls.transaction == transaction)
             .filter(vercls.uuid == instance.uuid)
             .all()
         )
 
+        # then get all related versions, per declared joins
+        for child_class, foreign_attr, primary_attr in self.normalize_version_joins():
+            child_vercls = continuum.version_class(child_class)
+            versions.extend(
+                session.query(child_vercls)
+                .filter(child_vercls.transaction == transaction)
+                .filter(
+                    getattr(child_vercls, foreign_attr)
+                    == getattr(instance, primary_attr)
+                )
+            )
+
+        return versions
+
     ##############################
     # autocomplete methods
     ##############################
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py
index 5b1e293..04a529e 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/settings.py
@@ -228,6 +228,8 @@ class AppInfoView(MasterView):  # pylint: disable=abstract-method
             {"name": f"{self.config.appname}.email.default.to"},
             {"name": f"{self.config.appname}.email.feedback.subject"},
             {"name": f"{self.config.appname}.email.feedback.to"},
+            # grids
+            {"name": "wuttaweb.grids.default_pagesize", "type": int},
         ]
 
         def getval(key):
@@ -282,6 +284,11 @@ class AppInfoView(MasterView):  # pylint: disable=abstract-method
         handlers = [{"spec": spec} for spec in handlers]
         context["menu_handlers"] = handlers
 
+        # add pagesize options
+        g = self.make_grid()
+        context["grid_pagesize_options"] = g.get_pagesize_options()
+        context["grid_pagesize_default"] = g.get_pagesize()
+
         # add `weblibs` to context, based on config values
         weblibs = self.get_weblibs()
         for key in weblibs:
diff --git a/tests/forms/test_widgets.py b/tests/forms/test_widgets.py
index 818c38a..deb44ab 100644
--- a/tests/forms/test_widgets.py
+++ b/tests/forms/test_widgets.py
@@ -139,6 +139,9 @@ class TestWuttaDateWidget(WebTestCase):
         return mod.WuttaDateWidget(self.request, **kwargs)
 
     def test_serialize(self):
+        self.config.setdefault("wuttatest.timezone.default", "America/Los_Angeles")
+        tzlocal = get_timezone_by_name("America/Los_Angeles")
+
         node = colander.SchemaNode(colander.Date())
         field = self.make_field(node)
 
@@ -156,7 +159,9 @@ class TestWuttaDateWidget(WebTestCase):
 
         # now try again with datetime
         widget = self.make_widget()
-        dt = datetime.datetime(2025, 1, 15, 8, 35)
+        # nb. local zone is Los_Angeles but this is presumed to be "naive UTC"
+        # hence local date is 2025-01-14
+        dt = datetime.datetime(2025, 1, 15, 4, 35)
 
         # editable widget has normal picker html
         result = widget.serialize(field, str(dt))
@@ -164,7 +169,7 @@ class TestWuttaDateWidget(WebTestCase):
 
         # readonly is rendered per app convention
         result = widget.serialize(field, str(dt), readonly=True)
-        self.assertEqual(result, "2025-01-15")
+        self.assertEqual(result, "2025-01-14")
 
 
 class TestWuttaDateTimeWidget(WebTestCase):
diff --git a/tests/views/test_master.py b/tests/views/test_master.py
index 6050edf..58d1c29 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_master.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_master.py
@@ -1785,6 +1785,8 @@ class TestMasterView(WebTestCase):
                         kw = original_context(**kw)
                         kw["menu_handlers"] = []
                         kw["default_timezone"] = "UTC"
+                        kw["grid_pagesize_options"] = [10, 20, 50]
+                        kw["grid_pagesize_default"] = 20
                         return kw
 
                     with patch.object(view, "configure_get_context", new=get_context):
@@ -2212,6 +2214,26 @@ class TestVersionedMasterView(VersionWebTestCase):
                 view = self.make_view()
                 self.assertEqual(view.get_version_grid_columns(), ["issued_at", "user"])
 
+    def test_get_version_joins(self):
+        view = self.make_view()
+        self.assertEqual(view.get_version_joins(), [])
+
+    def test_normalize_version_joins(self):
+        model = self.app.model
+        view = self.make_view()
+
+        joins = [(model.Person, "uuid", "person_uuid")]
+        with patch.object(view, "get_version_joins", return_value=joins):
+            normal = view.normalize_version_joins()
+            self.assertEqual(normal, joins)
+            self.assertEqual(normal, [(model.Person, "uuid", "person_uuid")])
+
+        joins = [model.Person]
+        with patch.object(view, "get_version_joins", return_value=joins):
+            normal = view.normalize_version_joins()
+            self.assertNotEqual(normal, joins)
+            self.assertEqual(normal, [(model.Person, "uuid", "uuid")])
+
     def test_get_version_grid_data(self):
         model = self.app.model
 
@@ -2300,7 +2322,9 @@ class TestVersionedMasterView(VersionWebTestCase):
         txncls = continuum.transaction_class(model.User)
         vercls = continuum.version_class(model.User)
 
-        user = model.User(username="fred")
+        person = model.Person(full_name="Fred Flintstone")
+        self.session.add(person)
+        user = model.User(username="fred", person=person)
         self.session.add(user)
         self.session.commit()
 
@@ -2314,11 +2338,21 @@ class TestVersionedMasterView(VersionWebTestCase):
         with patch.object(mod.MasterView, "model_class", new=model.User):
             with patch.object(mod.MasterView, "Session", return_value=self.session):
                 view = self.make_view()
+
+                # just one version if no joins are specified
                 versions = view.get_relevant_versions(txn, user)
                 self.assertEqual(len(versions), 1)
                 version = versions[0]
                 self.assertIsInstance(version, vercls)
 
+                # but two versions if we specify join
+                joins = [(model.Person, "uuid", "person_uuid")]
+                with patch.object(view, "get_version_joins", return_value=joins):
+                    versions = view.get_relevant_versions(txn, user)
+                    self.assertEqual(len(versions), 2)
+                    types = sorted([v.__class__.__name__ for v in versions])
+                    self.assertEqual(types, ["PersonVersion", "UserVersion"])
+
     def test_view_version(self):
         import sqlalchemy_continuum as continuum