diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/templates/base.mako b/src/wuttaweb/templates/base.mako
index 846843d..d84a0e2 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/templates/base.mako
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/templates/base.mako
@@ -248,7 +248,12 @@
                     % else:
                         <h1 class="title">${index_title}</h1>
                     % endif
-                    ${self.index_title_controls()}
+                    % if master and master.creatable and not master.creating and master.has_perm('create'):
+                        <wutta-button once type="is-primary"
+                                      tag="a" href="${url(f'{route_prefix}.create')}"
+                                      icon-left="plus"
+                                      label="Create New" />
+                    % endif
                 % endif
               </div>
             </div>
@@ -344,15 +349,6 @@
       </footer>
 </%def>
 
-<%def name="index_title_controls()">
-  % if master and master.creatable and not master.creating and master.has_perm('create'):
-      <wutta-button once type="is-primary"
-                    tag="a" href="${url(f'{route_prefix}.create')}"
-                    icon-left="plus"
-                    label="Create New" />
-  % endif
-</%def>
-
 <%def name="render_vue_template_whole_page()">
   <script type="text/x-template" id="whole-page-template">
 
diff --git a/src/wuttaweb/views/roles.py b/src/wuttaweb/views/roles.py
index 4bada03..a93bf9e 100644
--- a/src/wuttaweb/views/roles.py
+++ b/src/wuttaweb/views/roles.py
@@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ from wuttjamaican.db.model import Role, Permission
 from wuttaweb.views import MasterView
 from wuttaweb.db import Session
 from wuttaweb.forms import widgets
-from wuttaweb.forms.schema import Permissions, RoleRef
+from wuttaweb.forms.schema import UserRefs, Permissions, RoleRef
 
 
 class RoleView(MasterView):
@@ -123,7 +123,9 @@ class RoleView(MasterView):
         # users
         if not (self.creating or self.editing):
             f.append('users')
-            f.set_grid('users', self.make_users_grid(role))
+            f.set_readonly('users')
+            f.set_node('users', UserRefs(self.request))
+            f.set_default('users', [u.uuid for u in role.users])
 
         # permissions
         f.append('permissions')
@@ -132,39 +134,6 @@ class RoleView(MasterView):
         if not self.creating:
             f.set_default('permissions', list(role.permissions))
 
-    def make_users_grid(self, role):
-        """
-        Make and return the grid for the Users field.
-
-        This grid is shown for the Users field when viewing a Role.
-
-        :returns: Fully configured :class:`~wuttaweb.grids.base.Grid`
-           instance.
-        """
-        model = self.app.model
-        route_prefix = self.get_route_prefix()
-
-        grid = self.make_grid(key=f'{route_prefix}.view.users',
-                              model_class=model.User,
-                              data=role.users,
-                              columns=[
-                                  'username',
-                                  'person',
-                                  'active',
-                              ])
-
-        if self.request.has_perm('users.view'):
-            url = lambda user, i: self.request.route_url('users.view', uuid=user.uuid)
-            grid.add_action('view', icon='eye', url=url)
-            grid.set_link('person')
-            grid.set_link('username')
-
-        if self.request.has_perm('users.edit'):
-            url = lambda user, i: self.request.route_url('users.edit', uuid=user.uuid)
-            grid.add_action('edit', url=url)
-
-        return grid
-
     def unique_name(self, node, value):
         """ """
         model = self.app.model
diff --git a/tests/views/test_roles.py b/tests/views/test_roles.py
index 24b68dd..909739e 100644
--- a/tests/views/test_roles.py
+++ b/tests/views/test_roles.py
@@ -7,7 +7,6 @@ from sqlalchemy import orm
 import colander
 
 from wuttaweb.views import roles as mod
-from wuttaweb.grids import Grid
 from wuttaweb.forms.schema import RoleRef
 from wuttaweb.testing import WebTestCase
 
@@ -94,27 +93,6 @@ class TestRoleView(WebTestCase):
         view.configure_form(form)
         self.assertIsNotNone(form.validators['name'])
 
-    def test_make_users_grid(self):
-        model = self.app.model
-        view = self.make_view()
-        role = model.Role(name="Manager")
-
-        # basic
-        grid = view.make_users_grid(role)
-        self.assertIsInstance(grid, Grid)
-        self.assertFalse(grid.linked_columns)
-        self.assertFalse(grid.actions)
-
-        # view + edit actions
-        with patch.object(self.request, 'is_root', new=True):
-            grid = view.make_users_grid(role)
-            self.assertIsInstance(grid, Grid)
-            self.assertIn('person', grid.linked_columns)
-            self.assertIn('username', grid.linked_columns)
-            self.assertEqual(len(grid.actions), 2)
-            self.assertEqual(grid.actions[0].key, 'view')
-            self.assertEqual(grid.actions[1].key, 'edit')
-
     def test_unique_name(self):
         model = self.app.model
         view = self.make_view()